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''Do ya have any money
''I wanna spend all your money
''At the gay bar, gay bar, gay bar''|'''[[Electric Six]]''', "Gay Bar"}}
|'''[[Electric Six]]'''|"Gay Bar"}}
 
In real life, the average gay bar is simply a pub where most of the regular patrons are of [[Queer As Tropes|gay male, lesbian, bisexual]], and/or [[transgender]] persuasion. That's really all there is to it. Mostly they are just places where GLBT people socialize, dance, have a few beers, play pool, etc. Sometimes people chat up/pick up a new partner in these places just as straight people do in straight bars and pubs.
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* Counter example, the ''[[Batman]]'' special ''Batman and the Ultimate Evil'' features a nice, friendly gay bar called the Lavender Dragon, to contrast the wholesomeness of consenting adult homosexuals with the sleazy business of paedophilia (the Ultimate Evil of the title).
 
== [[FanficFan Works]] ==
* [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/992536/1/ Arisugawa's Locket.] [[Girls Love|No men allowed.]]
* The ''[[Doctor Who]]'' fanficverse, or at least the ''[[This Time Round]]'' 'verse, has [http://www.ttrarchive.com/cotc.html The Steel Maiden Bar & Grill].
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* The nightclub that Armand and Albert own in ''[[The Birdcage]]''.
 
== [[Literature]] ==
* Amusing parody of the trope: In [[Stephen King]]'s ''[[IT]]'', the landlord of a failing bar, the Falcon, is relieved when business picks up, in the form of quiet, youngish men who start patronizing his establishment. It takes him weeks to work out that his bar has become the official gay bar of the town, but once he's aware of it, he starts listening to gossip and begins to hear about all the orgies and perversions that straight men who would never dare set foot in the place ("In case all their wrist muscles went instantly limp") just ''know'' are going on there on a nightly basis. He also finds that his bar now suffers fewer breakages and less violence between patrons, making it more profitable to run.
 
== [[Live -Action TV]] ==
* Averted in at least one episode of [[Burn Notice]]. A gay bar Sam and Fiona visit for information looks no different than any of the other drinking locations that the show visits besides the fact that Fiona's the only woman in it. Admittedly, though, nearly every bar in the show's version of Miami is pretty flashy.
* This place or something like it is extremely popular in the ''[[Law and Order]]'' series.
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** And if you look closely enough, [[Armoured Closet Gay|police commander Bill Rawls]].
** Subverted when Kima Greggs and her girlfriend go drinking with two other gay women. They might be in a lesbian bar or they might not be - you can't tell.
* In ''[[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia|Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia]]'' the <s> idiots</s> guys are concerned that the patronage of Paddy's by African-Americans is less than nil. To solver this problem, they ask Sweet Dee's friend (who is black) to recommend the bar to his "friends." The man turns out to be gay and turns the bar into the hottest gay bar in Phily. Charlie is happy because of the increased business, and Dennis is happy for all the attention and tips he now receives. On the other hand, Dee is unhappy because she no longer gets tips, and Mac is unhappy because there are no girls to hit on.
** The show being what it is, Dennis ultimately gets his [[Ass Shove|comeuppance]], if you know what we mean.
* Averted in an episode of ''[[Roseanne]]'' in which the main character and her sister visit a lesbian bar with a gay friend. Most if not all of the patrons are regular people having a fun night out at a bar; Roseanne dances with her friend, and the one person who does hit on an uncomfortable Jackie is simply a conventionally attractive woman who sees Jackie sitting alone at the bar, and backs off without incident when told that Jackie isn't interested.
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* Nicely subverted in ''[[Rescue Me]]'': Because the homophobic character entering the bar doesn't see any stereotypical gay indicators, he doesn't realize it's a gay bar until all the patrons stand up to defend the man he's harassing.
* Subverted in ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' with the Demon bar "Willy's Alibi": "It's a Demon bar! It's like a gay bar... with Demons!"
** And indeed, it's just your normal, average bar... with demons.
* [[Saturday Night Live]]: Pretty much every single location mentioned by [[Saturday Night Live|Stefon.]]
* [[Parks and Recreation]]: Pawnee apparently has quite a large, active gay community, despite being a smaller midwestern town. The local gay bar is full of lights and loud pop music, but otherwise averts most of the [[Camp Gay]] stereotypes.
** Probably justified, since while the gay bar in town fits this trope, most if not all of the bars in Pawnee seem to be more like dance clubs than little midwestern bars.
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* On ''[[My Name Is Earl]]'', Earl finds a rather nerdy man named Kenny that he had gone to school with and picked on mercilessly. Earl notes that Kenny is lonely, and so tries to get him a girlfriend, until Randy stumbles upon Kenny's gay [[Porn Stash]]. Earl then takes Kenny to a local gay bar to help him become more comfortable with who he is...and maybe find a new boyfriend.
* ''[[Glee]]'' has Scandals, where the gay boys of the cast go with fake ID's. However, it's realistic in appearance and size for a gay bar in small town Ohio.
* Ernie and Bert from ''[[Sesame Street]]'' are occasionally [[Shipping|the target of speculation]], just because they've been together since the beginning (1969). Frank Oz has tried to dispel the claims (“I created Bert, I know what and who he is”), as has the Sesame Workshop (“As we have always said, Bert and Ernie are best friends. They were created to teach preschoolers that people can be good friends with those who are very different from themselves. Even though they are identified as male characters and possess many human traits and characteristics (as most Sesame Street Muppets do), they remain puppets, and do not have a sexual orientation.”) Nonetheless, former Sesame Street writer Mark Saltzman's 2018 claim that he contextualized Bert and Ernie as a couple based on his own relationship with film editor Arnold Glassman has kept the speculation alive (“I always felt that without a huge agenda, when I was writing Bert and Ernie, they were. I didn’t have any other way to contextualize them.”) and the US Supreme Court ruling in United States v. Edie Windsor, 570 U.S. 744 (2013) has emboldened support by fans for finally allowing this long-running duo to tie the knot and make it official. It'll likely never happen as Sesame is a show for little kids, but the question will always remain open.{{context}}<!-- Where's the gay bar? If there isn't one, this belongs on one of the Ho Yay pages. -->
 
== [[Music]] ==
* "Uneasy Rider '88" by the Charlie Daniels Band, in which two cowboys get a flat and are forced to stop at a joint where one is asked to dance by a [[Drag Queen]], though [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|he doesn't realize it at first]]. (A stark contrast to their original "Uneasy Rider", which was about a hippie in a redneck bar.)
* The singer in the ''[[Electric Six]]'' song "Gay Bar" seem to have a fairly outrageous place in mind---most of the activities there described---being a superstar, physical penetration, starting a nuclear war---tend to be frowned upon in more sedate establishments, though these do *''not*'' frown on spending all your money there.
 
== [[Tabletop Games]] ==
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* Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland in ''[[There Will Be Brawl]]'' is a typical one of these. It's run by [[The Legend of Zelda|Tingle]], with second- and third-in-commands being [[F-Zero|Captain Falcon]] and [[Kid Icarus|Pit]]. This is also the reason we know that [[Fire Emblem|Marth and Ike]] are not [[Heterosexual Life Partners]] and that Samus may be bisexual if her actions right before Luigi tells they're leaving is anything to go by.
 
== Webcomics[[Web Comics]] ==
* ''[[Wright As Rayne]]'' opens set in one called The [[Incredibly Lame Pun|Cocktail]].
 
== Music ==
* The singer in the ''[[Electric Six]]'' song "Gay Bar" seem to have a fairly outrageous place in mind---most of the activities there described---being a superstar, physical penetration, starting a nuclear war---tend to be frowned upon in more sedate establishments, though these do *not* frown on spending all your money there.
 
 
== [[Western Animation]] ==
* Played for laughs by ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'' with a [[Gay Bar Reveal]]; Homer, having been banned from Moe's and looking for a new watering hole, is the only man in a very obviously lesbian bar, muttering "Something's not quite right about this place, but I can't quite put my finger on it... wait a minute, I've got it! ''[[Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering?|This lesbian bar doesn't have a fire exit!]] Enjoy your deathtrap, ladies!''", which is followed by a woman asking "What's her problem?" as he leaves.
** Also, the ''Simpsons'' episode "Homer's Phobia". Homer makes friends with a kitschy antique store owner who looks like ([[Ink Suit Actor|and is voiced by]]) John Waters, but breaks off the friendship when he finds out that John is gay and Bart may be being influenced by him. In an effort to [[A Worldwide Punomenon|straighten]] him out, Homer accidentally takes Bart to a steel mill that turns into a gay dance club/bar after the work day is over.
*** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icIwKaci3MI We work hard, and we play hard.]
** In the more recent episode ''Flaming Mo's'', Smithers gets Moe to redesign his bar to cater to Springfield's resident gay population that doesn't fit in with the very trendy, upscale gay bar that opened literally across the street. Moe's (now redubbed Mo's) looks a lot more like a ''real'' gay bar would, a little class and a mixed but average clientele, while the competition is the loud, thumping, laser-and-fog-filled night club stocked (very intentionally) with a bevy of hunks that look like they just stepped off the catwalk.
* ''[[Time Squad]]'' had a robotic version of a gay bar on the season two episode, "Day of the Larrys." Yes, you read that right: a kids' show [[Getting Crap Past the Radar|had what was a pretty obvious depiction of a gay bar]] (though it was more disco than bar [there was a disco ball and disco music playing], the implications were still there).
* One cutaway in ''[[Family Guy]]'' shows Stewie in a club full of hunky men all dancing shirtless with lasers and fog overhead.
** "I know the guy that owns this place!"
* Subverted on ''[[South Park]];'' the [[Gay Bar Reveal]] in "D-Yikes!" is more realistic because [[The Problem with Pen Island|Les Bos]] seems like a pretty normal bar, except that its clientele are all women (with a good number, though not all of them, unusually "butch").
* In The British sketch-show [[Monkey Dust]], Geoff (a recurring character) who is a closet homosexual, travels throughout Britain in search of a good place for outing. He coincidentllycoincidentally halts at a small pub in [[The West Country]] that borders [[Überwald]], and tries his best not to openly out himself there, as the patrons look extremely conservative and offensive towards him. The only thing he didn't know was, that most of the patronsin the pub were "cottagers" themselves.
 
== [[Real Life]] ==
* [[Truth in Television]]: In many smaller cities where it's not practical to have more than one or two gay nightspots they can certainly end up looking like this.
** Additionally, in more conservative small towns where the only open gay men are those who are [[Camp Gay]] or otherwise in the [[Transparent Closet]], most patrons to be found in these few gay nightspots tend to fit this stereotype.
* In the 18th century there were Molly Houses.: Taverns that were notorious for housing men who would partake in orgies, cross dressing, and gay marriages. Though how much of this ''actually'' happened in the gay bars may be uncertain, as most details of them were in trial cases and undercover informants looking for reasons to hang sodomites.
 
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