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{{quote|Journey with us now, just as our hearty forefathers did, in the days of wooden ships and iron men. |
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|'''Narrator''', ''[[Disney Theme Parks|Disneyland's Sailing Ship Columbia]]''}} |
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A setting and an era, which has become a genre almost unto itself. |
A setting and an era, which has become a genre almost unto itself. |
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Not to be confused with the [[Avalon Hill]] [[Board Game]] of the same name, which is is [[Trope Namer|where we got the trope name]], or with [[Schizo-Tech]] settings where wood ships coexist with [[Powered Armor]]. The phrase shows up at least as far back as the [http://books.google.com/books?id=8FACAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA14&dq=wooden+ships+and+iron+men late 19th century], making it [[Older Than Radio]]. |
Not to be confused with the [[Avalon Hill]] [[Board Game]] of the same name, which is is [[Trope Namer|where we got the trope name]], or with [[Schizo-Tech]] settings where wood ships coexist with [[Powered Armor]]. The phrase shows up at least as far back as the [http://books.google.com/books?id=8FACAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA14&dq=wooden+ships+and+iron+men late 19th century], making it [[Older Than Radio]]. |
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== Comic Books == |
== Comic Books == |
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* ''[[El Cazador (comics)|El Cazador]]'' |
* ''[[El Cazador (comics)|El Cazador]]'' |
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* ''[[Marvel 1602]]'' is set in an early part of this period. [[Iron Man]] himself features. |
* ''[[Marvel 1602]]'' is set in an early part of this period. [[Iron Man]] himself features. |
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* The ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' fanfic [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6245901/1/Three_Years_At_Sea Three Years at Sea] is basically this {{smallcaps| [[Recycled in Space|on a Fire Nation ship!]]}} |
* The ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' fanfic [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6245901/1/Three_Years_At_Sea Three Years at Sea] is basically this {{smallcaps| [[Recycled in Space|on a Fire Nation ship!]]}} |
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== Film == |
== Film == |
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* ''[[HMS Defiant]]'' (movie, 1962) |
* ''[[HMS Defiant]]'' (movie, 1962) |
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* ''[[Mutiny on the Bounty]]'' there were at least 4 film versions: the best known are probably the ones from 1935 with Charles Laughton as Bligh and [[Clark Gable]] as Fletcher Christian; and 1962, with Trevor Howard as Bligh and [[Marlon Brando]] as Christian. |
* ''[[Mutiny on the Bounty]]'' there were at least 4 film versions: the best known are probably the ones from 1935 with Charles Laughton as Bligh and [[Clark Gable]] as Fletcher Christian; and 1962, with Trevor Howard as Bligh and [[Marlon Brando]] as Christian. |
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* Lampshaded in ''[[Star Trek Generations]]'', when the crew are on the wooden ship version of ''Enterprise'', on the holodeck. (The scene, of course, is a tribute to how [[Space Is an Ocean|the franchise owes this genre big-time]].) |
* Lampshaded in ''[[Star Trek: Generations]]'', when the crew are on the wooden ship version of ''Enterprise'', on the holodeck. (The scene, of course, is a tribute to how [[Space Is an Ocean|the franchise owes this genre big-time]].) |
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{{quote|'''Picard''': Just imagine what it was like. No engines, no computers. Just the wind and the sea and the stars to guide you. |
{{quote|'''Picard''': Just imagine what it was like. No engines, no computers. Just the wind and the sea and the stars to guide you. |
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'''Riker''': Bad food, brutal discipline... no women. }} |
'''Riker''': Bad food, brutal discipline... no women. }} |
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* ''[[Master and Commander (film)|Master and Commander]]'' is a good example of the more realistic portrayals of the era. |
* ''[[Master and Commander (film)|Master and Commander]]'' is a good example of the more realistic portrayals of the era. |
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* [[Errol Flynn]]'s swashbuckling [[Pirate]] films, ''[[Captain Blood]]'' and ''[[The Sea Hawk]]'' (which has [[Adaptation Displacement|absolutely nothing to do with]] [[Rafael Sabatini|the book]]). |
* [[Errol Flynn]]'s swashbuckling [[Pirate]] films, ''[[Captain Blood]]'' and ''[[The Sea Hawk]]'' (which has [[Adaptation Displacement|absolutely nothing to do with]] [[Rafael Sabatini|the book]]). |
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* [[Horatio Hornblower]]: |
* ''[[Horatio Hornblower]]'': |
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** ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043379/ Captain Horatio Hornblower R.N.]'' (1951). Starring Gregory Peck in his prime in the eponymous role. Virginia Mayo played Lady Barbara Wellesley. |
** ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043379/ Captain Horatio Hornblower R.N.]'' (1951). Starring Gregory Peck in his prime in the eponymous role. Virginia Mayo played Lady Barbara Wellesley. |
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** A series of eight movies from 1999 to 2003 by A&E. Starting with the award-winning ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0129686/ Hornblower: The Even Chance]''. |
** A series of eight movies from 1999 to 2003 by A&E. Starting with the award-winning ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0129686/ Hornblower: The Even Chance]''. |
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== Folklore == |
== Folklore == |
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* The American [[Tall Tale]] of A. B. Stormalong took place in this time period. However, like all the great American tall tales, his heart broke when the big battleships set out to sea, [[The Magic Goes Away|iron ships crewed by wooden men.]] |
* The American [[Tall Tale]] of A. B. Stormalong took place in this time period. However, like all the great American tall tales, his heart broke when the big battleships set out to sea, [[The Magic Goes Away|iron ships crewed by wooden men.]] |
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== Literature == |
== Literature == |
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* Both played straight and somewhat subverted in ''[[The Gentlemen Bastards]]'' book ''Red Seas under Red Skies''. |
* Both played straight and somewhat subverted in ''[[The Gentlemen Bastards]]'' book ''Red Seas under Red Skies''. |
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* ''[[Billy Budd]]'' |
* ''[[Billy Budd]]'' |
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* The [[Temeraire]] series is basically this, except the ships are [[Dragon Rider|talking dragons.]] |
* The ''[[Temeraire]]'' series is basically this, except the ships are [[Dragon Rider|talking dragons.]] |
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** There are plenty of the standard type as well. They frequently [[Interservice Rivalry|do not get along well]] with the airborne versions, and one of the leads is a navy man adjusting to dragonback service. |
** There are plenty of the standard type as well. They frequently [[Interservice Rivalry|do not get along well]] with the airborne versions, and one of the leads is a navy man adjusting to dragonback service. |
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* While David Eddings' ''[[Belgariad]]'' depicts life at sea rather romantically, its sequel, ''The Malloreon'', paints a considerably more grim picture of the conditions driving a sailor to desert his captain. It still involves a lot of "[[Talk Like a Pirate|mateys]]", though. |
* While David Eddings' ''[[Belgariad]]'' depicts life at sea rather romantically, its sequel, ''The Malloreon'', paints a considerably more grim picture of the conditions driving a sailor to desert his captain. It still involves a lot of "[[Talk Like a Pirate|mateys]]", though. |
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* [[Rafael Sabatini]]'s swashbuckling [[Pirate]] books, ''[[Captain Blood]]'' and ''[[The Sea Hawk]]''. |
* [[Rafael Sabatini]]'s swashbuckling [[Pirate]] books, ''[[Captain Blood]]'' and ''[[The Sea Hawk]]''. |
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* Quite a lot of [[John Ringo]]'s ''Emerald Sea'' and ''Against the Tide'', in the [[Council Wars]] series, are 40th century recreations of this era, due to the Fall and restrictions imposed by the world-controling AI "Mother" that make combustion-based engines beyond a certain low power output unavailable. |
* Quite a lot of [[John Ringo]]'s ''Emerald Sea'' and ''Against the Tide'', in the [[Council Wars]] series, are 40th century recreations of this era, due to the Fall and restrictions imposed by the world-controling AI "Mother" that make combustion-based engines beyond a certain low power output unavailable. |
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* [[wikipedia:Mr Midshipman Easy|Mr. Midshipman Easy]] by Frederick Marryat is a near-contemporary example, and probably set the tone for most of the later works in this vein. |
* ''[[wikipedia:Mr Midshipman Easy|Mr. Midshipman Easy]]'' by Frederick Marryat is a near-contemporary example, and probably set the tone for most of the later works in this vein. |
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* The sections concerning the people of the Iron Islands in [[A Song of Ice and Fire]], especially those that take place on boats, come across like this. Bonus points for them being called the Iron Men. |
* The sections concerning the people of the Iron Islands in [[A Song of Ice and Fire]], especially those that take place on boats, come across like this. Bonus points for them being called the Iron Men. |
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* Rosemary and Stephen Vincent Benet's poem "[http://www.constitutional.net/099.html Clipper Ships and Captains]" is an ode to this period, even going so far as to include the lines: |
* Rosemary and Stephen Vincent Benet's poem "[http://www.constitutional.net/099.html Clipper Ships and Captains]" is an ode to this period, even going so far as to include the lines: |
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{{quote|When the best ships still were wooden ships |
{{quote|When the best ships still were wooden ships |
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But the men were iron men. }} |
But the men were iron men. }} |
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== Live Action Television == |
== Live Action Television == |
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* ''[[The Onedin Line]]''. |
* ''[[The Onedin Line]]''. |
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== Music == |
== Music == |
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* ''[[7th Sea]]'' draws heavily upon this setting for any of its nautical adventures, especially anything involving the Pirate Nations. |
* ''[[7th Sea]]'' draws heavily upon this setting for any of its nautical adventures, especially anything involving the Pirate Nations. |
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* ''[[Furry Pirates]]'' |
* ''[[Furry Pirates]]'' |
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== Theme Parks == |
== Theme Parks == |
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* [[Disney Theme Parks]]: Aside from ''Pirates of the Caribbean'', this trope is said word-for-word in the ''Sailing Ship Columbia'' attraction. |
* [[Disney Theme Parks]]: Aside from ''Pirates of the Caribbean'', this trope is said word-for-word in the ''Sailing Ship Columbia'' attraction. |
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== Toys == |
== Toys == |
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* ''[[LEGO Pirates]]'' |
* ''[[LEGO Pirates]]'' |
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== Video Games == |
== Video Games == |
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* ''[[Sid Meier's Pirates!]]'' revolves entirely around this period in the Caribbean. The player character is a Privateer (not quite a pirate as it says on the tin) and will fight many (one-on-one) naval battles during the course of his/her career. |
* ''[[Sid Meier's Pirates!]]'' revolves entirely around this period in the Caribbean. The player character is a Privateer (not quite a pirate as it says on the tin) and will fight many (one-on-one) naval battles during the course of his/her career. |
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* The naval aspects of the ''[[Europa Universalis]]'' series live and breathe this trope, since the game spans virtually the entire Golden Age of Sail. |
* The naval aspects of the ''[[Europa Universalis]]'' series live and breathe this trope, since the game spans virtually the entire Golden Age of Sail. |
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== Web Original == |
== Web Original == |
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* ''[[Open Blue]]'' |
* ''[[Open Blue]]'' |
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* This is the general theme of the Soleil Alliance, based on the East India Company, in ''[[Lambda]]''. Except that you swap out "Iron Men" with "[[Magical Girl]]s". |
* This is the general theme of the Soleil Alliance, based on the East India Company, in ''[[Lambda]]''. Except that you swap out "Iron Men" with "[[Magical Girl]]s". |
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* [[Choice of Games]] web game |
* The ''[[Choice of Games]]'' web game "Choice Of Broadsides" is set here. With the option, at the beginning of the game, to be about Wooden Ships And Iron '''[[Rule 63|Women]]'''. |
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== Western Animation == |
== Western Animation == |
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* ''[[Treasure Planet]]'' is this period [[Recycled in Space|IN SPAAAAACE!!]] |
* ''[[Treasure Planet]]'' is this period [[Recycled in Space|IN SPAAAAACE!!]] |
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* The opening to Disney's ''[[Pocahontas]]'' features a wooden sailing ship weathering a bad storm at sea. |
* The opening to Disney's ''[[Pocahontas]]'' features a wooden sailing ship weathering a bad storm at sea. |
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== Real Life == |
== Real Life == |