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* You're not allowed to play ''pop'n music'' with the Beat-Pop modifier. After all, if you want gray and blue notes so badly, why not just play ''[[Beatmania]] IIDX''?

* ''[[Dance Dance Revolution]]'' (along with its counterparts ''[[Pump It Up]]'' and ''[[In The Groove]]'') have similar issues throughout:

** When it comes to the safety bar, the players can be easily separated into two types: those who support their weight with it [[Challenge Gamer|to achieve the highest score]], and those who [[Self Imposed Challenge|adamantly refuse to do so]] because they think [[Scrub|it's more fun that way]]. Both groups are equally vocal and equally annoying. Some in the anti-bar camp will heckle or even outright smack the hand of any player whom they see reaching for the bar. Even if the player is trying to beat [[That One Boss|That One Song]] or play [[Harder Than Hard|Oni Mode]] (where you have to play 5+ songs in a row without breaks, and missing 4 steps out of 300+ on any one song will fail you and end your game on the spot) or Survival Mode (instead of missing 4 notes max, it becomes a [[Timed Mission]] with only accurate stepping to keep the timer alive for the most part).

** When it comes to the safety bar, the players can be easily separated into two types: those who support their weight with it [[Challenge Gamer|to achieve the highest score]], and those who [[Self-Imposed Challenge|adamantly refuse to do so]] because they think [[Scrub|it's more fun that way]]. Both groups are equally vocal and equally annoying. Some in the anti-bar camp will heckle or even outright smack the hand of any player whom they see reaching for the bar. Even if the player is trying to beat [[That One Boss|That One Song]] or play [[Harder Than Hard|Oni Mode]] (where you have to play 5+ songs in a row without breaks, and missing 4 steps out of 300+ on any one song will fail you and end your game on the spot) or Survival Mode (instead of missing 4 notes max, it becomes a [[Timed Mission]] with only accurate stepping to keep the timer alive for the most part).

** Similar but lesser hate can be directed as a player who uses speed mods or any built-in noteskins to make reading stepcharts easier, [[Wall Banger|even if some of this noteskins are default options on some of the games]]. The only possible exception is the Solo modifier on older DDR arcade releases: due to a bug, if one player chose Solo, both players had to have it on.

* For a while, the speed mod debate carried over to ''[[Guitar Hero]]''. It certainly didn't help that in all ''Guitar Hero'' games so far '''but''' ''GH5'',<ref>Yes, even ''VanHalen'', which was released after ''GH5'', if only because it ran on a pre-''GH5'' engine.</ref> speed modifiers were filed under the cheats menu.

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** Besides that, most comments on the songs will simply consist of "FC" (Full Combo), sometimes followed up with "Too easy" or "Can't believe someone failed it". The moderator staff deleted them at first, but eventually resigned and let the SHFGs shout out their pride.

* Homebrew Bemani games falls victim to SHFG traps, most stepcharts wind up in the vein of "It is supposed to be hard, learn to play" songs. Rather evident in StepMania and Osu!

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