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* Most fans of ''[[Young Justice (comics)|Young Justice]]'' thought the ''entire'' team went through this when they transitioned to ''[[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|Teen Titans]]''. Kon suddenly having [[Cloning Blues]] and generally being a too-serious jackass when before he even made jokes about his clone status, and wearing a new costume that consists of jeans and a t-shirt! [[Fun Personified|Impulse]] suddenly grew grim and studious (and became Kid Flash, abandoning every last trace of his fierce individuality) after Deathstroke kneecapped him and he was forced to endure painful surgery. And Robin was Batman Jr, without a trace of his [[Deadpan Snarker]] attitude, his geek hobbies, or the fact he does have a sense of humor.
* Most fans of ''[[Young Justice (comics)|Young Justice]]'' thought the ''entire'' team went through this when they transitioned to ''[[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|Teen Titans]]''. Kon suddenly having [[Cloning Blues]] and generally being a too-serious jackass when before he even made jokes about his clone status, and wearing a new costume that consists of jeans and a t-shirt! [[Fun Personified|Impulse]] suddenly grew grim and studious (and became Kid Flash, abandoning every last trace of his fierce individuality) after Deathstroke kneecapped him and he was forced to endure painful surgery. And Robin was Batman Jr, without a trace of his [[Deadpan Snarker]] attitude, his geek hobbies, or the fact he does have a sense of humor.
** Cassie has become very ill tempered and cold towards her teammates. Her character has downgraded into a self-righteous, holier-than-thou [[Ice Queen]] who is obsessed with bringing Conner back and wants to change the team back into Young Justice.
** Cassie has become very ill tempered and cold towards her teammates. Her character has downgraded into a self-righteous, holier-than-thou [[Ice Queen]] who is obsessed with bringing Conner back and wants to change the team back into Young Justice.
*** At least they still get to ''be'' characters. [[Brought Down to Normal|Secret]], [[Brother Chuck|Empress]], [[Put on a Bus|Arrowette]], [[Dying to Be Replaced|Ray]], and [[Dropped a Bridge on Him|Slobo]].
*** At least they still get to ''be'' characters. [[Brought Down to Normal|Secret]], [[Brother Chuck|Empress]], [[Put on a Bus|Arrowette]], [[Dying to Be Replaced|Ray]], and [[Dropped a Bridge on Him|Slobo]] all got removed from continuity, or were reduced to only cameos or brief apperances where they did not do anything.
**** Sean McKeever seemed to have noticed Cassie's change, and attempted an [[Author's Saving Throw]] by blaming it on {{spoiler|accepting powers from Ares. This negated the powers Zeus gave her and would have [[Face Heel Turn|corrupted her completely]], were her will not strong enough to resist him. Instead, she just turned into a bitch.}}Although the following writers promptly derailed Cassie back into a raging shrew, to the point where a group of rather vocal fans considered her [[Ruined FOREVER]] to the point that only her death would "cleanse" the Teen Titans title.
**** Sean McKeever seemed to have noticed Cassie's change, and attempted an [[Author's Saving Throw]] by blaming it on {{spoiler|accepting powers from Ares. This negated the powers Zeus gave her and would have [[Face Heel Turn|corrupted her completely]], were her will not strong enough to resist him. Instead, she just turned into a bitch.}}Although the following writers promptly derailed Cassie back into a raging shrew, to the point where a group of rather vocal fans considered her [[Ruined FOREVER]] to the point that only her death would "cleanse" the Teen Titans title.
**** Some would argue that Cassie has reasons to act ill-tempered and cold. First off, Superboy is basically the love of her life, and they even had sex before his death. That is normally considered cause for angst, and would be difficult to cope with, since she is a young teenager. Also, she has been the leader of the [[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|Teen Titans]] at some points, and a leader is supposed to be tough. For instance, she has reasonable concerns with having Ravager AKA Rose Wilson on the team, because Rose is a murderer addicted to adrenaline. Cassie really has come a long way from being a [[Wonder Woman]] wannabe created by [[John Byrne]]. Hopefully the revamped version of her will be better if not just as good. Really, she should not have to be killed off.
**** Some would argue that Cassie has reasons to act ill-tempered and cold. First off, Superboy is basically the love of her life, and they even had sex before his death. That is normally considered cause for angst, and would be difficult to cope with, since she is a young teenager. Also, she has been the leader of the [[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|Teen Titans]] at some points, and a leader is supposed to be tough. For instance, she has reasonable concerns with having Ravager AKA Rose Wilson on the team, because Rose was drugged by Deathstroke into becoming a murderer. Cassie really has come a long way from being a [[Wonder Woman]] wannabe created by [[John Byrne]]. Hopefully the revamped version of her will be better if not just as good. Really, she should not have to be killed off.
** While we're on the subject of Young Justice, Inertia, Impulse's [[Evil Twin]]. Originally, he was a rebellious teenager who secretly resented Impulse for having something he never had: a family. In fact, that eventually drove him to abandon the people who were using him to try to make his own way in the world. Then he became a generic, baby-killing, crazy eeeeeevil and sadistic version of Kid Flash. I don't even think I have to tell you how much less interesting this is than the original characterization.
** While we're on the subject of Young Justice, Inertia, Impulse's [[Evil Twin]]. Originally, he was a rebellious teenager who secretly resented Impulse for having something he never had: a family. In fact, that eventually drove him to abandon the people who were using him to try to make his own way in the world. Then he became a generic, baby-killing, crazy eeeeeevil and sadistic version of Kid Flash. I don't even think I have to tell you how much less interesting this is than the original characterization.
*** Then you will be happy to know that shortly after Inertia took on the name Kid Zoom, he got killed off. Yep, he is dead as a doornail.
*** Then you will be happy to know that shortly after Inertia took on the name Kid Zoom, he got killed off. Yep, he is dead as a doornail.
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* ''[[JLA: Act of God]]'' does this to just about ''every single character'' bar Batman, who [[Took a Level in Jerkass|takes a huge level in arrogance]].
* ''[[JLA: Act of God]]'' does this to just about ''every single character'' bar Batman, who [[Took a Level in Jerkass|takes a huge level in arrogance]].
* On the X-Men page linked above, it's been noted that Warren Ellis's approach when writing for mainstream comics lately has been "take a look at past few issues featuring character, extrapolate from there as baseline behavior." If you want any further proof that's the case, then behold as [[Lawful Good|Captain]] [[The Cape (trope)|America]] [http://4thletter.net/2012/01/america-is-now-blood-and-tears-instead-of-milk-and-honey-secret-avengers-21/ condones torture].
* On the X-Men page linked above, it's been noted that Warren Ellis's approach when writing for mainstream comics lately has been "take a look at past few issues featuring character, extrapolate from there as baseline behavior." If you want any further proof that's the case, then behold as [[Lawful Good|Captain]] [[The Cape (trope)|America]] [http://4thletter.net/2012/01/america-is-now-blood-and-tears-instead-of-milk-and-honey-secret-avengers-21/ condones torture].
* During Tom King's run on [[Batman]], the entire Batfamily, save for Damian Wayne and Dick Grayson, who was suffering under an alternate personality at the time, fell into a brief, but very bad period following the death of Alfred Pennyworth. Barbara Gordon was depicted as a horrible [[Hypocrite]], who called Bruce out on not running after Damian when he ran out of Alfred's funeral in tears, despite making no effort to go after him herself. Both Jason and Tim were depicted as being completely uninterested about Damian's guilt, and while both had their rivalries, both of them would usually never let Damian carry the guilt of Alfred's death around, especially Jason. What makes this worse is that aside from Dick Grayson, who got rid of the alternate personality, nobody ever apologized to Damian for how he was treated when King's run ended, with many of them preferring to see Damian's behavior as him being rebellious, rather than him leaving a horribly neglectful family.


== Marvel Comics ==
== Marvel Comics ==