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== Eastern RPGS ==
== Tabletop Games ==
* About a third of the iconically bad cards in ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'' are common. Almost all of them are creatures that would have been fair at half their mana cost.
** In Time Spiral's bonus Timeshifted set, the old "Squire" card, legendary common of badness, was treated by players as a curse at worst, a booby prize at best.
** The designers of Magic are rather diligent at making sure rarity doesn't equal usefulness, for several reasons. To put in perspective, when players complained about the quirky rare "Steamflogger Boss" being total junk, demanding it should have been downgraded to uncommon, one response from Wizards was "you hate this card so much, you want ''more'' of them to show up in your packs?"
** Also, many tournaments are booster drafts, where much of your deck is going to be commons anyway. If the majority were useless, those would be some damned unfun tournaments.
** Casual players often forget/don't realize that much of a set is designed to have fair and fun "limited" tournaments (the varieties of play in which you open new packs and build decks out of those cards only). Tournament players, in turn, often forget that much of a set is designed for casual play. Thus, a lot of cards get accused of being "useless" that really aren't, they're just for a different audience. Of course, there is still the occasional complete trash - but usually it's no more than 1 or 2 cards in a 200-card set, and like good and evil, good cards cannot exist without bad cards to compare them against. Of course, I speak of MODERN Magic. Go back to the mid-90's and there's all kinds of terrible Com Mons, such as the aforementioned Squire.
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' provides reams of monsters which even type specialists won't go near. One wonders why they bother wasting the paper. In particular, Normal Monsters are generally ignored unless they have notable stats (which keep creeping upward), and tribute monsters usually require some kind of great effect to be worth it.
** While it was always like this from the start (licensed merchandising trumping game balance, one assumes), it got especially bad once the US game caught up with the Japanese. Suddenly in each seventy-odd card set, only a half-dozen were remotely more useful than what was already available, and most of those were terribly unbalanced ultra rares that were guaranteed to be banned within the year.
** In all fairness, though, recent sets have been somewhat dutiful to making these kinds of cards at least somewhat useful; for instance, there are plenty of support for Normal Monsters to make a viable and powerful deck out of them, whether it be a sheer beatdown or weenie rush. That's not to say that they don't ''still'' give out crap, on occasion.
** Also, as mentioned above, [[Power Creep, Power Seep|Power Creep]] hasn't exactly helped. These days you have Lvl 4's that are more powerful than the old Level 5's and now certain Lvl 3's ([http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tune_Warrior Tune Warrior], [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/X-Saber_Airbellum X-Saber Airbellum]) are stronger than some of [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Celtic_Guardian the old] [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Winged_Dragon,_Guardian_of_the_Fortress_1 Level 4's]. And let's not forget poor [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red-Eyes_B._Dragon Red-Eyes], who's a Level 7 Normal Monster and there are Level 6 Monsters that have the ''exact same stats'' for one Tribute less (like [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Amphibian_Beast Amphibian Beast]).
*** [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chainsaw_Insect Chainsaw Insect] is even worse, a level 4 with 2400 attack, 0 defense, even [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Muka_Muka Muka Muka] which is a low level (and actually is pretty old) that could get that strong by its effect wasn't always and how often are you going to use Chainsaw Insect in defense? Poor, poor Red-Eyes.
*** Not to mention that they remade a couple old notable cards by giving them adjectives to their names to make them have any sort of purpose in the modern game. [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Obnoxious_Celtic_Guard The Obnoxious Celtic Guard] is a remake of a pathetic card with only 1400 attack points and gives it resistance to being destroyed by strong cards. [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Swift_Gaia_the_Fierce_Knight Swift Gaia the Fierce Knight] takes a monster which is disappointing for requiring two tributes and gives it the ability to sometimes be summoned WITHOUT a tribute.
**** On the subject of new Gaia's, there's [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gaia_Knight%2C_the_Force_of_Earth this] and [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gaia_Drake,_the_Universal_Force this]. Both are much stronger than the original.

== Video Games ==
=== Card Battle Game ===
* Played straight in the ''[[Final Fantasy VIII]]'' card game, where you start with a crappy collection of cards and then have to play other people and sift through their horde of bad cards to get one of the few worth having.
** However, the whole point of playing cards in the game is for refining said cards into items, so every card has some sort of use.

=== Eastern RPGS ===
* Rattata and Pidgey in ''[[Pokémon]]'', as well as [[Expy|all the others based on them.]] (Yes, Hoothoot, Sentret, Poochyena, Taillow, Zigzagoon, Starly, Bidoof, Patrat, Lillipup and Pidove, we mean ''you.'') Also [[Goddamned Bats|Zubat]] and Geodude, which can be caught early on in all generations (excluding ''[[Pokémon Black and White]]'') and ''continue'' to show up in every single cave you enter throughout the game.
* Rattata and Pidgey in ''[[Pokémon]]'', as well as [[Expy|all the others based on them.]] (Yes, Hoothoot, Sentret, Poochyena, Taillow, Zigzagoon, Starly, Bidoof, Patrat, Lillipup and Pidove, we mean ''you.'') Also [[Goddamned Bats|Zubat]] and Geodude, which can be caught early on in all generations (excluding ''[[Pokémon Black and White]]'') and ''continue'' to show up in every single cave you enter throughout the game.
** On the subject of ''Black'' and ''White'', Roggenrola (and its evolution, Boldore) and Woobat are pretty much Unova's equivalent of Geodude (or Graveler in Boldore's case) and Zubat, respectively. The fact that Woobat's name rhymes with its Gen I-IV counterpart's makes it more obvious that it's the latter's counterpart.
** On the subject of ''Black'' and ''White'', Roggenrola (and its evolution, Boldore) and Woobat are pretty much Unova's equivalent of Geodude (or Graveler in Boldore's case) and Zubat, respectively. The fact that Woobat's name rhymes with its Gen I-IV counterpart's makes it more obvious that it's the latter's counterpart.
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** Although this is averted when you reach hell. All the characters you can invite are actually useful and have a decent amount of good skills. Of course by that point in the game, who cares?
** Although this is averted when you reach hell. All the characters you can invite are actually useful and have a decent amount of good skills. Of course by that point in the game, who cares?


=== Western RPGS ===

== Western RPGS ==
* If you're playing ''[[Geneforge]]'' as a [[Squishy Wizard|Shaper]], the cute little lizards known as Fyoras will be your first [[Monster Allies]], and will almost inevitably be replaced with [[Our Dragons Are Different|Drakons]] or the like by game's end. This is averted if you're a more physical class, though—either you'll do a [[Solo Character Run]], or you'll get a Fyora and [[Magikarp Power|level it until it can nibble a Drakon to death]].
* If you're playing ''[[Geneforge]]'' as a [[Squishy Wizard|Shaper]], the cute little lizards known as Fyoras will be your first [[Monster Allies]], and will almost inevitably be replaced with [[Our Dragons Are Different|Drakons]] or the like by game's end. This is averted if you're a more physical class, though—either you'll do a [[Solo Character Run]], or you'll get a Fyora and [[Magikarp Power|level it until it can nibble a Drakon to death]].


== Collectible Card Games ==

* Played straight in the ''[[Final Fantasy VIII]]'' card game, where you start with a crappy collection of cards and then have to play other people and sift through their horde of bad cards to get one of the few worth having.
** However, the whole point of playing cards in the game is for refining said cards into items, so every card has some sort of use.
* About a third of the iconically bad cards in ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'' are common. Almost all of them are creatures that would have been fair at half their mana cost.
** In Time Spiral's bonus Timeshifted set, the old "Squire" card, legendary common of badness, was treated by players as a curse at worst, a booby prize at best.
** The designers of Magic are rather diligent at making sure rarity doesn't equal usefulness, for several reasons. To put in perspective, when players complained about the quirky rare "Steamflogger Boss" being total junk, demanding it should have been downgraded to uncommon, one response from Wizards was "you hate this card so much, you want ''more'' of them to show up in your packs?"
** Also, many tournaments are booster drafts, where much of your deck is going to be commons anyway. If the majority were useless, those would be some damned unfun tournaments.
** Casual players often forget/don't realize that much of a set is designed to have fair and fun "limited" tournaments (the varieties of play in which you open new packs and build decks out of those cards only). Tournament players, in turn, often forget that much of a set is designed for casual play. Thus, a lot of cards get accused of being "useless" that really aren't, they're just for a different audience. Of course, there is still the occasional complete trash - but usually it's no more than 1 or 2 cards in a 200-card set, and like good and evil, good cards cannot exist without bad cards to compare them against. Of course, I speak of MODERN Magic. Go back to the mid-90's and there's all kinds of terrible Com Mons, such as the aforementioned Squire.
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' provides reams of monsters which even type specialists won't go near. One wonders why they bother wasting the paper. In particular, Normal Monsters are generally ignored unless they have notable stats (which keep creeping upward), and tribute monsters usually require some kind of great effect to be worth it.
** While it was always like this from the start (licensed merchandising trumping game balance, one assumes), it got especially bad once the US game caught up with the Japanese. Suddenly in each seventy-odd card set, only a half-dozen were remotely more useful than what was already available, and most of those were terribly unbalanced ultra rares that were guaranteed to be banned within the year.
** In all fairness, though, recent sets have been somewhat dutiful to making these kinds of cards at least somewhat useful; for instance, there are plenty of support for Normal Monsters to make a viable and powerful deck out of them, whether it be a sheer beatdown or weenie rush. That's not to say that they don't ''still'' give out crap, on occasion.
** Also, as mentioned above, [[Power Creep, Power Seep|Power Creep]] hasn't exactly helped. These days you have Lvl 4's that are more powerful than the old Level 5's and now certain Lvl 3's ([http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tune_Warrior Tune Warrior], [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/X-Saber_Airbellum X-Saber Airbellum]) are stronger than some of [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Celtic_Guardian the old] [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Winged_Dragon,_Guardian_of_the_Fortress_1 Level 4's]. And let's not forget poor [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red-Eyes_B._Dragon Red-Eyes], who's a Level 7 Normal Monster and there are Level 6 Monsters that have the ''exact same stats'' for one Tribute less (like [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Amphibian_Beast Amphibian Beast]).
*** [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chainsaw_Insect Chainsaw Insect] is even worse, a level 4 with 2400 attack, 0 defense, even [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Muka_Muka Muka Muka] which is a low level (and actually is pretty old) that could get that strong by its effect wasn't always and how often are you going to use Chainsaw Insect in defense? Poor, poor Red-Eyes.
*** Not to mention that they remade a couple old notable cards by giving them adjectives to their names to make them have any sort of purpose in the modern game. [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Obnoxious_Celtic_Guard The Obnoxious Celtic Guard] is a remake of a pathetic card with only 1400 attack points and gives it resistance to being destroyed by strong cards. [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Swift_Gaia_the_Fierce_Knight Swift Gaia the Fierce Knight] takes a monster which is disappointing for requiring two tributes and gives it the ability to sometimes be summoned WITHOUT a tribute.
**** On the subject of new Gaia's, there's [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gaia_Knight%2C_the_Force_of_Earth this] and [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gaia_Drake,_the_Universal_Force this]. Both are much stronger than the original.


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