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* One of the main highlights of ''[[Student Council's Discretion]]''.{{context}}
* One of the main highlights of ''[[Student Council's Discretion]]''.{{context}}
* ''[[Welcome to The NHK]]'' has a lot of conversations like this between Yamazaki and Sato, since they're trying to make a [[H-game]] together and Sato isn't an otaku like Yamazaki. For example, one scene has Yamazaki scolding Sato for trying to write the main heroine like a realistic girl, and then discussing the "patterns" found in games like [[Victorious Childhood Friend]]s, [[Meido]]s and [[Robot Girl]]s, explaining that these all work because she has no ulterior motive and simply is devoted to serving the protagonist. These conversations also serve to set up Sato thinking of Misaki as something of a soft-spoken [[Manic Pixie Dream Girl]], which gets [[Deconstructed]] as the series continues.
* ''[[Welcome to The NHK]]'' has a lot of conversations like this between Yamazaki and Sato, since they're trying to make a [[H-game]] together and Sato isn't an otaku like Yamazaki. For example, one scene has Yamazaki scolding Sato for trying to write the main heroine like a realistic girl, and then discussing the "patterns" found in games like [[Victorious Childhood Friend]]s, [[Meido]]s and [[Robot Girl]]s, explaining that these all work because she has no ulterior motive and simply is devoted to serving the protagonist. These conversations also serve to set up Sato thinking of Misaki as something of a soft-spoken [[Manic Pixie Dream Girl]], which gets [[Deconstructed]] as the series continues.



== Fan Works ==
== Fan Works ==
* In Kyon and Sasaki's backstory in ''[[Kyon: Big Damn Hero]]'', their usual conversation was about any trope Kyon could think at the moment, trope that was appropriately deconstructed by Sasaki. [[Tropes Will Ruin Your Life|That's how Kyon's optimism and interest in the supernatural vanished in middle school]].
* In Kyon and Sasaki's backstory in ''[[Kyon: Big Damn Hero]]'', their usual conversation was about any trope Kyon could think at the moment, trope that was appropriately deconstructed by Sasaki. [[Tropes Will Ruin Your Life|That's how Kyon's optimism and interest in the supernatural vanished in middle school]].
** Haruhi, who reads the in-universe tvtropes website, also lapses into this on occasion.
** Haruhi, who reads the in-universe TV Tropes website, also lapses into this on occasion.
* In ''The Secret Collocation of Alex Mack'', a story from the [[Mega Crossover]] setting ''[[A Brane of Extraordinary Women]]'', [[The Dresden Files|Harry Dresden]] describes a tactic used by [[The Secret Return of Alex Mack|Terawatt]] and Stormburst as "[[Summon Bigger Fish]]", and actually makes a comment in his narration about explanations for the "trope-deficient".
* In ''The Secret Collocation of Alex Mack'', a story from the [[Mega Crossover]] setting ''[[A Brane of Extraordinary Women]]'', [[The Dresden Files|Harry Dresden]] describes a tactic used by [[The Secret Return of Alex Mack|Terawatt]] and Stormburst as "[[Summon Bigger Fish]]", and actually makes a comment in his narration about explanations for the "trope-deficient".



== Film ==
== Film ==
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* ''[[Swingers]]'' features a scene where the leads are sitting around a table discussing the films of Martin Scorsese and the inherent difficulty of filming in a casino as well as their love of the [[The Oner|one-take restaurant entry shot]] in ''[[Goodfellas]]''. They later emulate this shot when when entering a club and one of the first parts of the film is shot in a casino.
* ''[[Swingers]]'' features a scene where the leads are sitting around a table discussing the films of Martin Scorsese and the inherent difficulty of filming in a casino as well as their love of the [[The Oner|one-take restaurant entry shot]] in ''[[Goodfellas]]''. They later emulate this shot when when entering a club and one of the first parts of the film is shot in a casino.
* ''[[Galaxy Quest]]'' is practically made of this.
* ''[[Galaxy Quest]]'' is practically made of this.



== Literature ==
== Literature ==
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* One of ''[[The Dresden Files]]'' novels has a discussion of which member of the [[The Lord of the Rings|Fellowship]] everyone is. Harry objects to not being assigned Gandalf, until it is explained that Sam is the real hero of the story. And there's a throwaway line about a certain person being Boromir—said person later betraying the group.
* One of ''[[The Dresden Files]]'' novels has a discussion of which member of the [[The Lord of the Rings|Fellowship]] everyone is. Harry objects to not being assigned Gandalf, until it is explained that Sam is the real hero of the story. And there's a throwaway line about a certain person being Boromir—said person later betraying the group.


== Live-Action TV ==

== Live Action Television ==
* On ''[[Scrubs]]'', the characters discuss when characters are driving away in a car, but their conversation doesn't get quieter. Of course, they're in a car, driving away, and they stay loud and clear.
* On ''[[Scrubs]]'', the characters discuss when characters are driving away in a car, but their conversation doesn't get quieter. Of course, they're in a car, driving away, and they stay loud and clear.
* In ''[[Stargate SG-1]]'', Carter picks apart the poor planning on the part of the aliens in ''Signs''.
* In ''[[Stargate SG-1]]'', Carter picks apart the poor planning on the part of the aliens in ''Signs''.
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'''Kate''': Well, it beats being the girl who twists her ankle and gets everybody else killed. }}
'''Kate''': Well, it beats being the girl who twists her ankle and gets everybody else killed. }}
* Occurs in Series H "History" on ''[[QI]]'' with Stephen, Alan, David Mitchell, Sandi Toksvig, and Rob Brydon digitally edited into a photo of a combat squad. David (whose face was in a somewhat goofy expression) mused that he would be [[Red Shirt|killed off early]], while Sandi supposed she would be the woman brought along [[Mission Control|just to work the radio]], but gets [[Action Survivor|forced into flying a plane]]. Stephen would be [[Shell Shocked Senior|the hero]] [[Old Soldier|from]] the First World War, Rob gets [[Retirony|killed off right before the end]] (just when you think he'll make it), and Alan survives the whole thing.
* Occurs in Series H "History" on ''[[QI]]'' with Stephen, Alan, David Mitchell, Sandi Toksvig, and Rob Brydon digitally edited into a photo of a combat squad. David (whose face was in a somewhat goofy expression) mused that he would be [[Red Shirt|killed off early]], while Sandi supposed she would be the woman brought along [[Mission Control|just to work the radio]], but gets [[Action Survivor|forced into flying a plane]]. Stephen would be [[Shell Shocked Senior|the hero]] [[Old Soldier|from]] the First World War, Rob gets [[Retirony|killed off right before the end]] (just when you think he'll make it), and Alan survives the whole thing.



== Newspaper Comics ==
== Newspaper Comics ==
* Calvin of ''[[Calvin and Hobbes]]'' frequently discusses the ways his snowmen demonstrate [[Art Tropes]]. He and Hobbes also discuss [[Comic Books]], as in this iconic dialogue:
* Calvin of ''[[Calvin and Hobbes]]'' frequently discusses the ways his snowmen demonstrate [[Art Tropes]]. He and Hobbes also discuss [[Comic Books]], as in this iconic dialogue:
{{quote|'''Calvin''': Mom doesn't understand comic books. She doesn't realize that comic books deal with [[We Are Still Relevant Dammit|serious issues of the day]]. [[Darker and Edgier|Today's superheroes]] face tough [[Moral Dilemma|moral dilemmas]]. Comic books aren't just [[Escapism|escapist]] fantasy. They're [[An Aesop|sophisticated social critiques]].
{{quote|'''Calvin''': Mom doesn't understand comic books. She doesn't realize that comic books deal with [[We're Still Relevant, Dammit!|serious issues of the day]]. [[Darker and Edgier|Today's superheroes]] face tough [[Moral Dilemma|moral dilemmas]]. Comic books aren't just [[Escapism|escapist]] fantasy. They're [[An Aesop|sophisticated social critiques]].
'''Hobbes''': Is [[Most Common Superpower|Amazon Girl's super power]] the ability to squeeze that figure [[Trope Namer|into that suit]]?"
'''Hobbes''': Is [[Most Common Superpower|Amazon Girl's super power]] the ability to squeeze that figure [[Trope Namer|into that suit]]?"
'''Calvin''': [[Rhetorical Question Blunder|Nah]], they all can do that. }}
'''Calvin''': [[Rhetorical Question Blunder|Nah]], they all can do that. }}



== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==
* Characters in ''[[Trinity Universe (video game)|Trinity Universe]]'' are fond of this. Especially the prinnies and Etna.
* Characters in ''[[Trinity Universe (video game)|Trinity Universe]]'' are fond of this. Especially the prinnies and Etna.
** That's a carry over and logical extension of things from Etna's original series, ''[[Disgaea]]''. Characters in those games love to lampshade gameplay mechanics and poke fun at expected tropes (Like the ability to save before a boss fight). They also discuss their own levels and character titles so it's hard to tell at times if it's just them breaking the fourth wall or this is normal topics of conversation for people in their situations (Etna's [[Bag of Spilling|drop to level one from 1000]] due to a summoning gone bad for example is a plot point in the second game and her entire motivation for being a playable character). Also the Episode previews, which is nothing but parodies and playing with tropes (despite the next episodes rarely ever matching them) originate here.
** That's a carry over and logical extension of things from Etna's original series, ''[[Disgaea]]''. Characters in those games love to lampshade gameplay mechanics and poke fun at expected tropes (Like the ability to save before a boss fight). They also discuss their own levels and character titles so it's hard to tell at times if it's just them breaking the fourth wall or this is normal topics of conversation for people in their situations (Etna's [[Bag of Spilling|drop to level one from 1000]] due to a summoning gone bad for example is a plot point in the second game and her entire motivation for being a playable character). Also the Episode previews, which is nothing but parodies and playing with tropes (despite the next episodes rarely ever matching them) originate here.



== Web Original ==
== Web Original ==
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* In episode 21 of ''[[Princess Tutu Abridged]]'', this is the only way Autor speaks, leading Fakir to the conclusion that he's crazy. He's really crazy.
* In episode 21 of ''[[Princess Tutu Abridged]]'', this is the only way Autor speaks, leading Fakir to the conclusion that he's crazy. He's really crazy.
* Team Kimba in the ''[[Whateley Universe]]'' is a group of mutants with superpowers who go to a [[Super-Hero School]] and live in a world with superheroes and supervillains. Plus they're [[Genre Savvy]]. Naturally they do this, sometimes in the middle of a superhero fight. In the battle against superpowered ninjas during Parents' Day, Generator (half-Japanese) tropes all over her battle with a Japanese ninja who is a gravity Warper.
* Team Kimba in the ''[[Whateley Universe]]'' is a group of mutants with superpowers who go to a [[Super-Hero School]] and live in a world with superheroes and supervillains. Plus they're [[Genre Savvy]]. Naturally they do this, sometimes in the middle of a superhero fight. In the battle against superpowered ninjas during Parents' Day, Generator (half-Japanese) tropes all over her battle with a Japanese ninja who is a gravity Warper.



== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
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