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{{trope}}
{{trope}}
{{quote|''"...I have a territorial instinct that exhibits a kind of knee-jerk negative reaction to seeing other people controlling the destiny of my characters. (That's the main reason why ''Goliath Chronicles'' was so painful for me to watch.)"''|'''[[Greg Weisman]]''', creator of ''[[Gargoyles]]''}}
{{quote|''"...I have a territorial instinct that exhibits a kind of knee-jerk negative reaction to seeing other people controlling the destiny of my characters. (That's the main reason why ''Goliath Chronicles'' was so painful for me to watch.)"''
|'''[[Greg Weisman]]''', creator of ''[[Gargoyles]]''}}


So the author of this work is considered to be the ultimate authority of this work, maybe he is the creator, director, or producer of this fictional work. He had the initial idea of this fictional work (or at least this version of it) and most ideas are his, not to mention that he is the final authority regarding [[Canon]]. He must "own" this fictional work—right?
So the author of this work is considered to be the ultimate authority of this work, maybe he is the creator, director, or producer of this fictional work. He had the initial idea of this fictional work (or at least this version of it) and most ideas are his, not to mention that he is the final authority regarding [[Canon]]. He must "own" this fictional work—right?
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# The author's [[Word of God]] can be demoted to [[Fan Fiction]], while the executives can [[Armed with Canon|arm someone else with canon]] to change the work or [[Depending on the Writer|"interpret it differently"]].
# The author's [[Word of God]] can be demoted to [[Fan Fiction]], while the executives can [[Armed with Canon|arm someone else with canon]] to change the work or [[Depending on the Writer|"interpret it differently"]].
#[[You Have Outlived Your Usefulness|If the company doesn't want the original author, they simply replace/fire him from the project.]]
#[[You Have Outlived Your Usefulness|If the company doesn't want the original author, they simply replace/fire him from the project.]]



This can be very painful for the author losing all their "control" of their work despite being the main creative force behind it and the ultimate authority of it. However some fans may still consider them as "[[Word of God]]" in spite of this, and even hold them in higher regard.
This can be very painful for the author losing all their "control" of their work despite being the main creative force behind it and the ultimate authority of it. However some fans may still consider them as "[[Word of God]]" in spite of this, and even hold them in higher regard.
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== Comics ==
== Comics ==
* For ''[[Sandman]]'' there is an interesting semi-exception in a medium (American comics) where it ''is'' very common: [[DC Comics]] own the work, and can use characters from it without consulting [[Neil Gaiman]] in any way ... but it wouldn't occur to anyone currently working there to do so, mostly because Gaiman's portrayal of them is so iconic that any appearance by a ''[[Sandman]]'' character written by anyone else would be considered [[Canon Discontinuity]] at best.
* For ''[[Sandman]]'' there is an interesting semi-exception in a medium (American comics) where it ''is'' very common: [[DC Comics]] own the work, and can use characters from it without consulting [[Neil Gaiman]] in any way ... but it wouldn't occur to anyone currently working there to do so, mostly because Gaiman's portrayal of them is so iconic that any appearance by a ''[[Sandman]]'' character written by anyone else would be considered [[Canon Discontinuity]] at best.
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== Films ==
== Films ==
* There is a ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (film)|Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' [[The Remake|remake]] film under discussion, which is being planned without [[Word of God|Joss Whedon's input]]. None of the TV characters (except Buffy) will appear. Joss has actually refused to help with it. [[Alyson Hannigan]], [[Anthony Stewart Head]] and others from the show have all said that it's a bad idea and, in the case of Head, that he imagines it will be "quite like watching a car wreck."
* At one time there was a ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (film)|Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' [[The Remake|remake]] film under discussion, which was being planned without [[Word of God|Joss Whedon's input]], and in which none of the TV characters (except Buffy) would appear. Joss had actually refused to help with it. [[Alyson Hannigan]], [[Anthony Stewart Head]] and others from the show all said that it's a bad idea and, in the case of Head, that he imagined it would be "quite like watching a car wreck."
* Happened to [[Gene Roddenberry]] with the ''[[Star Trek]]'' film series. After ''[[Star Trek: The Motion Picture]]'' went way over budget and past schedule, [[Paramount Pictures]] had Roddenberry [[Kicked Upstairs]] to "executive consultant", meaning everyone could ignore his "suggestions" if they liked and they did. But [[Tropes Are Not Bad]]. The films that followed are considered some of the best work in the ''Star Trek'' canon. When ''Star Trek'' returned to the small screen with ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'', Roddenberry got to be in charge of that, though he continued to have no control over the ''Trek'' movies. During this time, Roddenberry dispensed some [[Word of God]] regarding what elements of the films he considered to be non-canon.
* Happened to [[Gene Roddenberry]] with the ''[[Star Trek]]'' film series. After ''[[Star Trek: The Motion Picture]]'' went way over budget and past schedule, [[Paramount Pictures]] had Roddenberry [[Kicked Upstairs]] to "executive consultant", meaning everyone could ignore his "suggestions" if they liked and they did. But [[Tropes Are Not Bad]]. The films that followed are considered some of the best work in the ''Star Trek'' canon. When ''Star Trek'' returned to the small screen with ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'', Roddenberry got to be in charge of that, though he continued to have no control over the ''Trek'' movies. During this time, Roddenberry dispensed some [[Word of God]] regarding what elements of the films he considered to be non-canon.


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== [[Tabletop Games]] ==
== [[Tabletop Games]] ==
* ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]'' hasn't been owned by its original creators in well over thirty years, ever since Gary Gygax had control of TSR wrested from him in the mid-1980's. Strangely enough, despite being the [[Trope Codifier]] for the entire RPG concept, Gygax has had very little effect on advancing the game's canon since it was first created. He created the original [[Greyhawk]] setting, but was involved very little with it afterwards before eventually leaving the company because of massive [[Executive Meddling]]. Very few gamers would actively prefer Gygax's game mechanics to what is produced today, though there is a certain flavor in classic adventures like ''Temple of Elemental Evil'' and the ''Tomb of Horrors'' made during his tenure that make for fun throwbacks.
* ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]'' hasn't been owned by its original creators in well over thirty years, ever since Gary Gygax had control of TSR wrested from him in the mid-1980's. Strangely enough, despite being the [[Trope Codifier]] for the entire RPG concept, Gygax has had very little effect on advancing the game's canon since it was first created. He created the original ''[[Greyhawk]]'' setting, but was involved very little with it afterwards before eventually leaving the company because of massive [[Executive Meddling]]. Very few gamers would actively prefer Gygax's game mechanics to what is produced today, though there is a certain flavor in classic adventures like ''Temple of Elemental Evil'' and the ''Tomb of Horrors'' made during his tenure that make for fun throwbacks.
** Likewise, the ''[[Forgotten Realms]]'' setting was originally created by Ed Greenwood and became known to public via series of articles in TSR's [[Dragon (magazine)|''Dragon'' magazine]] in the late 80's. TSR eventually bought the rights to the setting outright, publishing it in a comprehensive campaign boxed set. Since then, it had been a playground for authors like R.A. Salvatore to publish mostly original novels based in the setting's backdrop, almost turning it into an [[Expanded Universe]]. And then continuity editing decayed until it became nonexistent, while Jeff Grubb (the man who put together cohesive multiverse of AD&D1-2 era as we know it and helped to make FR a game setting) lost influence and eventually left. As for the FR, Greenwood continued to have some gradually decreasing input, or at least the right to complain, while TSR/Wizards/Hasbro ends up sitting on a ''huge'' pile of material it buried - during about two decades - behind NDA.
** Likewise, the ''[[Forgotten Realms]]'' setting was originally created by Ed Greenwood and became known to public via series of articles in TSR's [[Dragon (magazine)|''Dragon'' magazine]] in the 1980s. TSR eventually bought the rights to the setting outright, publishing it in a comprehensive campaign boxed set. Since then, it had been a playground for authors like R.A. Salvatore to publish mostly original novels based in the setting's backdrop, almost turning it into an [[Expanded Universe]]. And then continuity editing decayed until it became nonexistent, while Jeff Grubb (the man who put together cohesive multiverse of AD&D1-2 era as we know it and helped to make ''FR'' a game setting) lost influence and eventually left. As for the ''FR'', Greenwood continued to have some gradually decreasing input, or at least the right to complain, while TSR/Wizards/Hasbro ends up sitting on a ''huge'' pile of material it buried - during about two decades - behind NDA.
*** ...all the way until the release of 4th Edition, where the Spellplague and other interdimensional weirdness caused [[The End of the World as We Know It]] - [[Executive Meddling|against explicit objections]] of both Ed Greenwood ''and'' R.A. Salvatore (whose series, obviously, were one of main cash cows and promotional materials in FR). Essentially making [[In Name Only|effectively a new setting]] that tries to capitalize on the notoriety of Forgotten Realms and recycles some names from it (Ed Greenwood is good with names, which seems to be in short supply). It doesn't help that the setting itself looks like there was little effort put into it beyond tearing apart old FR: it has most distinctive features removed and introduced little material not obviously "borrowed" from elsewhere (like rebranded dragonmarks from ''[[Eberron]]'' or the whole totally-not-''[[Exalted]]''-ripoff jumble with "Primordials"). Naturally, [[Fanon Discontinuity|this wasn't received well]].
*** ...all the way until the release of 4th Edition, where the Spellplague and other interdimensional weirdness caused [[The End of the World as We Know It]] - [[Executive Meddling|against explicit objections]] of both Ed Greenwood ''and'' R.A. Salvatore (whose series, obviously, were the main cash cows and promotional materials in ''FR''). Essentially making [[In Name Only|effectively a new setting]] that tries to capitalize on the notoriety of ''Forgotten Realms'' and recycles some names from it (Ed Greenwood is good with names, which seems to be in short supply). It doesn't help that the setting itself looks like there was little effort put into it beyond tearing apart old ''FR'': it has most of the distinctive features removed and introduced little material not obviously "borrowed" from elsewhere (like rebranded dragonmarks from ''[[Eberron]]'' or the whole totally-not-''[[Exalted]]''-ripoff jumble with "Primordials"). Naturally, [[Fanon Discontinuity|this wasn't received well]].
** ''[[Dragonlance]]'' is currently owned by [[Wizards of the Coast]], and not by Tracy Hickman, [[Margaret Weis]], or Jeff Grubb, all three of whom (Among many) who contributed greatly to the setting.
** ''[[Dragonlance]]'' is currently owned by [[Wizards of the Coast]], and not by Tracy Hickman, [[Margaret Weis]], or Jeff Grubb, all three of whom (among many) who contributed greatly to the setting.



== Videogames ==
== Videogames ==