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** What would Princess Justice and Verity Queen look and act like?

* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]:

** Season 3 through 5 haven't been received well by fans for a multitude of reasons ([[Locked Out of the Loop|Adrien/Chat being reduced more and more]], Chloe losing her [[Character Development]] and becoming worse as the seasons went on, Felix and especially [[Abusive Parents|Gabriel]] becoming [[Karma Houdini]]s, '''everything''' about [[Replacement Scrappy|Zoe]], etc). Many wish the show would've ended at season or at least that the later seasons would've been severely rewritten.

** Season 3 through 5 haven't been received well by fans for a multitude of reasons ([[Locked Out of the Loop|Adrien/Chat being reduced more and more]], Chloe losing her [[Character Development]] and becoming worse as the seasons went on, Felix and especially [[Abusive Parents|Gabriel]] becoming [[Karma Houdini]]s, '''everything''' about [[Replacement Scrappy|Zoe]], etc). Many wish the show would've ended at season 2 or at least that the later seasons would've been severely rewritten.

** As far as Chloe's fans know, the [[Face Heel Turn]] she made as well as the other awful actions she did in the later seasons '''never happened'''.

** Similarly, as far as they know (though it isn't just Chloe fans who think this) Zoe [[Ret-Gone|doesn't exist]]. And even if she does, she almost never gets the Bee miraculous or any miraculous for that matter.

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** Alec is Manon's father. The evidence is he's the only other TV personality on the show, that, like [[Ambiguously Brown|Manon]], is dark-skinned and he and Nadja do seem to be on good terms.

** A few fans headcanon the reason Marinette (or whoever has the ladybug miraculous in fanfiction) had the book is because she was using the Ladybug Miraculous to get back home from school faster or she was using it for personal reasons. The evidence being we don't see Chat Noir with her, the book is the real deal and not a polka dotted lucky charm, and Marinette when watching the video doesn't mention an akuma.

* [[Friendly Fandoms]]: With the Batman franchise (namely thanks to [[Crossover Ship|MariBat]]). Though with how much fan works it has to the point people who are looking for either fanfic of one them have to filter them out the other (or just try and avoid them all together in some fic sites' cases) and several fics are also [[Revenge Fic|'salt']] fics of this show, there is some [[Fandom Rivalry]] there as well.

* [[Never Live It Down]]: Chloé undergoing [[Flanderization]] in the season 3 finale is this to her stans.

** For his detractors, anytime Adrien is too oblivious to Marinette's feelings and [[Entitled to Have You|Chat Noir]] makes Ladybug uncomfortable/annoyed.

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* [[Unintentionally Unsympathetic]]:

** Minor but anytime Alya gets temporarily taken out by the villain but it's because she was trying to get footage of the battle for her blog.

** Marinette in 'The Bubbler' for some. At the end, she doesn't get the satisfaction of having Adrien know it was her scarf since Nathalie gave it to Adrien as a gift from Gabriel. However, due to her using her Lucky Charm [[Skewed Priorities|to break up Adrien and Chloe and taken advantage of Nathalie being taken to give ~~Amelie~~ her gift]], some take it as karma.

** Marinette in 'The Bubbler' for some. At the end, she doesn't get the satisfaction of having Adrien know it was her scarf since Nathalie gave it to Adrien as a gift from Gabriel. However, due to her using her Lucky Charm [[Skewed Priorities|to break up Adrien and Chloe and taken advantage of Nathalie being taken to give Adrien her gift]], some take it as karma.

** Mr. Ramier in any of his main episodes. He gets told off for feeding the pigeons. However, Roger is right that not only is it illegal to feed the pigeons in Paris, but feeding them makes them their waste everywhere. However, he gets upset whenever he gets told off for never following the rules/law. This is made worse by the fact it's revealed in later episodes, he's one of the most frequent villains Ladybug and Chat Noir have to fight.

** Jalil in 'The Pharaoh', we're made to feel sorry for him that his father doesn't share his thoughts about the Pharaoh. However, not only is he misusing precious artifacts that could cost [[Strawman Has a Point|his father]] his job but he's aware before he gets akumatized that the ritual needs a sacrifice to work, meaning he was all for sacrificing a human for bringing back the dead.

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*** Alya also believes Chloe is Ladybug despite seeing Chloe being saved by Ladybug in the 'Origins' episodes and them being seen at the same time of several battles. This is lampshaded as Nino asks several times if she has proof, Marinette mentions she doesn't check her facts and Chat flat out calls her out on it.

*** Lady Wifi has both Ladybug and Chat in her clutches and pulls at her mask instead of her earrings, however that's not the idiotic part. The idiotic part is that Hawk Moth never corrects her and instead tells her to let Ladybug use her lady charm which does seem to work but is thwarted. If Hawk Moth had just told Lady Wifi her miraculous was her earrings, they might've actually won.

* [[Why Would Anyone Take Him Back?]] Ondine regarding Kim in 'Derision'. You can argue since he's remorseful at the end, he deserves a second chance but with all his actions in that episode being so bad, fans were wondering why she didn't dump him.** A huge chunk of the audience had this reactions towards Adrien when it's revealed he knew Lila was lying but was trying to take the high road regarding the situation. This has lessened since he has cut off Lila but this opinion still persists.

* [[Why Would Anyone Take Him Back?]] Ondine regarding Kim in 'Derision'. You can argue since he's remorseful at the end, he deserves a second chance but with all his actions in that episode being so bad, fans were wondering why she didn't dump him.

** A huge chunk of the audience had this reactions towards Adrien when it's revealed he knew Lila was lying but was trying to take the high road regarding the situation. This has lessened since he has cut off Lila but this opinion still persists.

** On the flipside, Chat Noir has also gotten this reaction regarding how Ladybug treats him and later how he gets [[Locked Out of the Loop|locked out the loop]] due to her becoming a guardian. Some fans cannot believe it took five seasons for Chat to not have a crush on her anymore.