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** Another, very chilling, example is [[Super-Powered Evil Side|Super Saiyan 2 Gohan]] willfully prolonging his [[Curb Stomp Battle]] against Cell, partly for this trope, and [[For the Evulz|party for his own sadistic amusement]]. It [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|backfires]] ''[[Epic Fail|spectacularly]]'', as Cell suffers an epic [[Villainous Breakdown]] and attempt a [[Suicide Attack]] that could've [[Earthshattering Kaboom|destroyed the whole Earth]], had his father [[The Messiah|Goku]] [[Heroic Sacrifice|not stepped in sacrificed himself for the sake of everyone]], {{spoiler|[[Senseless Sacrifice|which ultimately failed]]}}.
** Another, very chilling, example is [[Super-Powered Evil Side|Super Saiyan 2 Gohan]] willfully prolonging his [[Curb Stomp Battle]] against Cell, partly for this trope, and [[For the Evulz|party for his own sadistic amusement]]. It [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|backfires]] ''[[Epic Fail|spectacularly]]'', as Cell suffers an epic [[Villainous Breakdown]] and attempt a [[Suicide Attack]] that could've [[Earthshattering Kaboom|destroyed the whole Earth]], had his father [[The Messiah|Goku]] [[Heroic Sacrifice|not stepped in sacrificed himself for the sake of everyone]], {{spoiler|[[Senseless Sacrifice|which ultimately failed]]}}.
* Sentinel 3, AKA the "Avenging Sentinel" from ''[[Franken Fran]]'' becomes addicted to vengeance {{spoiler|even setting up his own non-combat allies to be killed just to have excuse for it}} because the act of vengeance feels really good. And it's not [[Combat Sadomasochist|like this]] or [[Orgasmic Combat|like that]], just knowing you're avenging someone {{spoiler|even someone ''you set up to die in the first place''}} produces that same kind of high.
* Sentinel 3, AKA the "Avenging Sentinel" from ''[[Franken Fran]]'' becomes addicted to vengeance {{spoiler|even setting up his own non-combat allies to be killed just to have excuse for it}} because the act of vengeance feels really good. And it's not [[Combat Sadomasochist|like this]] or [[Orgasmic Combat|like that]], just knowing you're avenging someone {{spoiler|even someone ''you set up to die in the first place''}} produces that same kind of high.
* Guts from ''[[Berserk]]''. He and his lover Casca were the sole survivors of the dreaded Eclipse {{spoiler|which was caused by their former friend and leader, Griffith, [[Face Heel Turn|selling them and all of their comrades in the Band of the Hawk out to the Godhand]] [[Deal with the Devil|in order to become a demon lord]] so that he could fulfill his life-long dream after a year of crippling torture. [[To Make a Long Story Short|To make a long and sad story short]], neither Guts nor Casca come out [[Go Mad From the Revelation|unharmed]] [[Life or Limb Decision|or intact]].}} After the event, and though all that they had left were each other, Guts was so embroiled in his rage and grief over what happened to them that he left Casca in the care of Godot, Erica, and Rickert after only a few weeks in order to [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge|pursue revenge against Griffith, the Apostles and the Godhand]], which apart from leading Guts to [[Took a Level In Jerkass|Take A Level In Jerkass]] during those two years certainly did not help Casca's post-Eclipse condition at all. It is only after getting a serious [[What the Hell, Hero?]] speech from Godot about this two years after this that Guts finally starts getting his act together again.
* Guts from ''[[Berserk]]''. He and his lover Casca were the sole survivors of the dreaded Eclipse {{spoiler|which was caused by their former friend and leader, Griffith, [[Face Heel Turn|selling them and all of their comrades in the Band of the Hawk out to the Godhand]] [[Deal with the Devil|in order to become a demon lord]] so that he could fulfill his life-long dream after a year of crippling torture. [[To Make a Long Story Short|To make a long and sad story short]], neither Guts nor Casca come out [[Go Mad From the Revelation|unharmed]] [[Life or Limb Decision|or intact]].}} After the event, and though all that they had left were each other, Guts was so embroiled in his rage and grief over what happened to them that he left Casca in the care of Godot, Erica, and Rickert after only a few weeks in order to [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge|pursue revenge against Griffith, the Apostles and the Godhand]], which apart from leading Guts to [[Took a Level in Jerkass|Take A Level In Jerkass]] during those two years certainly did not help Casca's post-Eclipse condition at all. It is only after getting a serious [[What the Hell, Hero?]] speech from Godot about this two years after this that Guts finally starts getting his act together again.
* ''[[Master of Martial Hearts]]'' has the villains take Revenge before Reason, common sense, sense of decency and even basic logic.
* ''[[Master of Martial Hearts]]'' has the villains take Revenge before Reason, common sense, sense of decency and even basic logic.
* The defining trait of ''[[One Piece]]'' villain Hody Jones. Despite having never suffered from it firsthand, he craves revenge against the human race for crimes against Fishmen and Merfolk and will do anything to achieve it. This anything includes sabotaging attempts by other characters to reconcile and live peacefully with humans so they can continue to justify themselves.
* The defining trait of ''[[One Piece]]'' villain Hody Jones. Despite having never suffered from it firsthand, he craves revenge against the human race for crimes against Fishmen and Merfolk and will do anything to achieve it. This anything includes sabotaging attempts by other characters to reconcile and live peacefully with humans so they can continue to justify themselves.
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== Tabletop Games ==
== Tabletop Games ==
* ''[[Exalted]]'': So. Let's say that you are the ghost of a First Age god-king, who has been empowered by the dead gods that once ruled Creation to go out and drag the whole place screaming into the maw of Oblivion. They have power over you that is paramount, and [[You Have Failed Me|do not show favor to those who screw up]]. So what have you spent the last several years doing? You've been tracking down the reincarnations of the people who tormented you in the First Age, and making their lives hell over and over again. You have let plans that could put a serious cold sore on Creation's lips, including a ''zombie plague'', char on the back burner because you are so busy fucking over the people who tormented you millennia ago. You are Eye and Seven Despairs, and you are, in the eyes of your colleagues, utter dogshit.
* ''[[Exalted]]'': So. Let's say that you are the ghost of a First Age god-king, who has been empowered by the dead gods that once ruled Creation to go out and drag the whole place screaming into the maw of Oblivion. They have power over you that is paramount, and [[You Have Failed Me|do not show favor to those who screw up]]. So what have you spent the last several years doing? You've been tracking down the reincarnations of the people who tormented you in the First Age, and making their lives hell over and over again. You have let plans that could put a serious cold sore on Creation's lips, including a ''zombie plague'', char on the back burner because you are so busy fucking over the people who tormented you millennia ago. You are Eye and Seven Despairs, and you are, in the eyes of your colleagues, utter dogshit.
* In ''[[Warhammer]]'' the Dwarves. Every time. They are determined to avenge every slight, and never, ever forgive. And just to make sure they don't forget either, they have a giant book called the Book of Grudges in which they write them all down. They're currently going slowly extinct, and a fair amount of the blame goes to their refusal to cooperate with the other races because at some point in centuries past they were wronged by them. That, and their literal inability to stop taking revenge. Every time they take revenge, and lose a dwarf doing it? Write it down in the book.
* In ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]]'' the Dwarves. Every time. They are determined to avenge every slight, and never, ever forgive. And just to make sure they don't forget either, they have a giant book called the Book of Grudges in which they write them all down. They're currently going slowly extinct, and a fair amount of the blame goes to their refusal to cooperate with the other races because at some point in centuries past they were wronged by them. That, and their literal inability to stop taking revenge. Every time they take revenge, and lose a dwarf doing it? Write it down in the book.