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{{quote|'''Demon-roach:''' So what? Who cares?
'''MitD:''' Exactly. That's why I'm sad. }}
*** Not really. {{spoiler|Firstly, we only have her word that everybody in her life treated her like crap, and based on what is known about her its likely that many of those people treated badly because she was an [[Evil Sorceress]] obsessed with [[Black Magic]] with a serious [[Lack of Empathy]] for living beings. Her "really and truly" loving Xykon also reads like a [[Shallow Love Interest]]- she only "loves" him because he's a powerful Lich, and no real other reason. Its almost like a [[Harley Quinn]] and [[The Joker]] [[Mad Love]]-type situation, except that Xykon didn't even ''pretend'' to be her boyfriend and couldn't even remember her ''name''. She qualifies for [[Alas, Poor Villain]], due to being deluded and seriously out of her league, but she is not ''that'' sympathetic.}}
** {{spoiler|Yukyuk is abused by The Order of the Stick after Vaarsuvius takes control of him in order to defeat Zz'ditri and is eventually killed by the latter's acid sphere.}}
* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]
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** Girard Draketooth -- Chaotic version of a [[Knight Templar]] or [[Properly Paranoid]]?
* [[Archive Binge]]: Over 800+ strips -- and the "strips" are actually twice the size of Sunday comics, and sometimes have more than one page.
* [[Base Breaker]]: Miko is a... polarizing character to say the least. Fans of the comic generally either love Miko or hate her. They started arguing about her back after being revealed at comic #200, and it's now over five hundred strips later -- {{spoiler|and she's been dead since #464}} -- and no end in sight. (The author is not entirely happy about this.) And then there's those who [[Take a Third Option]] and [[Love to Hate|love her as a character because they dislike her so much.]]
* [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]]: Elan distracts an oncoming swarm of angry monsters with, out of ''absolutely friggin' nowhere'', [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0091.html Fruit Pie the Sorcerer's Fruit Pies] (a parody of [[Delicious Fruit Pies]]).
* [[Broken Base]]
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{{quote|'''Redcloak:''' I know he seems funny and charming, but believe me, when you see for yourself the depths to which he'll sink, you will never sleep well again.}}
** {{spoiler|Elan's father}} proves that you can demonstrate your love for your son ''and'' cause innocent people to die horribly painful deaths at the same time. After all, doing the two things separately is horribly inefficient. {{spoiler|Tarquin}} is The Giant's way of testing how far evil can go and still be likeable. He has proved his monster status over and over and over again. Whenever he mentions giving someone anything, you can expect something horrible to happen. Since he has the [[Pet the Dog|ability to love]] {{spoiler|his son (and presumably Elan's mother, since he didn't kill her either)}} and the extent his villainry is played for laughs, he falls ''just'' shy of the requisites to be a [[Complete Monster]].
*** Well, he ''says'' he can love- but his idea of "love" seems to be seriously screwed up- for instance, he tries to force a woman to marry him after conquering her city , and views the fact that she is married as a problem to be rectified by killing her husband. Bare in mind, as well, that his previous wife (wife number 9, no less) had only died a mere fortnight before, so he got over that pretty quick. {{spoiler|He doesn't mind manipulating both his sons for his own ends, thinks bloody gladiatorial fights to the death and crucifying and incinerating escaped slaves to spell out lighted messages are good presents for Elan without really caring if Elan himself would like them or not, and encourages both his sons to try and overthrow and kill them (provided they do it with style).}} He's...more than a little screwy.
* [[Crack Pairing]]: [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111631 Eight]. [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125046 shipping] [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129876 threads] [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133747 and] [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136627 sadly] [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138468 at] [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141065 a] [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144143 halt]. Warning: Due to the tendency of forum posters to write [[Fanfic|fanfics]] of their absurd pairings, visitors are advised to keep [[Brain Bleach]] handy at all times. Especially when viewed alongside the banners.
** It would also seem that Vaarsuvius has become the [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships|Village Bike]] of the fandom.
** [[Twilight (novel)|Edward Cullen]]×[[Harry Potter (novel)|Harry Potter]]×[[Dragonlance|Raistlin Majere]]×Xykon×Tsukiko×Lien×[[Erfworld|Stanley the Tool]]×[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6419640#post6419640 Winston Churchill]. Sometimes they get a little psyched up.
** As all good things, some idiot came and overdid it (by posting a pedo/incest story). The crack pairings are no longer going to be made, although the old ones will be remembered.
*** [http://www.fanfiction.net/comic/Order_of_the_Stick/ Someone hasn't] [http://www.fanfiction.net/community/Order_of_the_Stick_Crack_Pairings/76363/ been looking] [http://forum.fanfiction.net/forum/Welcome_to_Crack/71859/ in the] [http://crackpairings.wikidot.com/ right places.]
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** Lord Shojo. He [[Obfuscating Insanity|Obfuscated Senility]] so that he could play the nobles off against each other and by-pass the tedious problem of avoiding assassination squads. And he did it so well that not only did he keep the entire city running smoothly for nearly half a century (which is a quite a feat when you've got [[Knight Templar|Templar Paladins]] mixing with your [[Aristocrats Are Evil|duplicitous noble gentry]]), but after he was gone, despite the fact that the ex-inhabitants of Azure City nearly descended into civil war trying to take power for themselves and assign blame, [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0533.html his authority (in the form of his cat) is still unquestioned.] He almost achieved [[Vetinari Job Security]][http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0407.html ... almost.] In addition, when he died he chose to stay dead, [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0410.html which pretty much sent the "Haha! Suck it, losers..." message back to the world of the living.]
** The Oracle is seen as such by fans.
** The three IFCC fiends, all the way.
** General Tarquin, with {{spoiler|he and his confederates ruling ''three'' desert empires from the shadows, playing them all against each other (and every group not aligned with their empires) with their patsies none the wiser}}. He is also ''extremely'' [[Genre Savvy]] {{spoiler|(fittingly, for Elan's father)}}, and thus is perfectly and explicitly aware of the costs and consequences of the role he has chosen to play in "the story" -- he simply weighed the pros and cons, and saw that by ''his'' definition, he will "win" no matter what happens.
*** Specifically, he feels that if an [[Evil Overlord]] is overthrown by a [[Ragtag Bunch of Misfits]] and / or [[La Résistance]] in a final epic battle, thats a pretty good and exciting way to go, and doesn't outway the perks of ruling [[The Empire]] "like a god" for the twenty or so years prior to the heroes showing up to oust him. From his point of view, its decades of wealth, power and doing whatever the hell he likes in exchange for a a few minutes of violence and death. Plus, as a bonus, he'll go down in infamy as a successful warlord and probably inspire legions of imitators who see him as the benchmark.
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** Nale arguably crosses this when he murders 421 innocent people in Cliffport simply so he can succeed in his plans.
*** Pfft, he crossed it ''way back'' in the first story arc when he stabbed his brother Elan through the back (literally).
** While under the effects of the soul-splice, {{spoiler|Vaarsuvius brutally dispatches an Ancient Black Dragon threatening his/her family. Then s/he reanimates her head and, in order to protect his/her family, casts Familicide - an epic level spell that wipes out the targets entire family line. Vaarsuvius offhandedly mentions that s/he probably killed 1/4 of the black dragon population as a result.}} This is considered an ''extremely'' questionable act, despite the fact that {{spoiler|black dragons are [[
** The end of ''Start of Darkness'' for Redcloak. Engineered by Xykon, who hapilly explains that he can now trust Redcloak to do any despicable action Xykon asks of Redcloak because otherwise he'd have to face that he crossed the horizon for nothing.
{{quote|'''Xykon:''' You'll obey me forever now, because I give you an excuse for your inexcusable behavior.}}
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