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== Marvel ==

** It's not just that Sally Floyd is an incredible jackass. It's clear from the writing, particularly from the way that a man famous for speeches about doing the right thing no matter what ''bows his head and accepts this,'' that ''we're supposed to be on her side''. According to the writers, [[Myspace]], [[YouTube]] and [[American Idol]] ''are'' more important to Americans than truth, justice, freedom, and democracy. Even if they're right, it feels wrong.

*** Thankfully, other Marvel comics have started to criticize this. For instance, Floyd is ridiculed for it in the Patriot issue of a recent ''Young Avengers'' mini-series. [[Moon Knight]] also saved her from some street thugs in his own comic, and then stated that if he had known who she was, he wouldn't have bothered to help her.

* Recently, after almost a decade of fan demand, the original Hobgoblin returned in ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #648. Chilling, cunning, and sane, Hobgoblin was one of the most unique, interesting, and underutilized of the Goblins, and is in the [[Magnificent Bastard]] comics section. During his career, he had three times fooled Spider-Man with red herrings. Finally, in a case of [[Know When to Fold'Em]], he set up a patsy, the third red herring, to take the fall and die for him while he retired. It was ten years before he reappeared. Finally brought to justice, he spends at most a month comic-book-time in prison before manipulating ''Norman Osborn'' into breaking him out. He then retires to the Caribbean to live off of his illicit gains. Surely, his return is going to epic. Wrong. After a decade of anticipation, the Hobgoblin is killed by a Z-list ex-superhero gone crazy named Phil Urich and replaced by said ex-superhero. This was after making the Hobgoblin the Kingpin's, one of Hobgoblin's old enemies, b---h. They even have a line almost paraphrasing that. So first, they derail the Hobgoblin's characterization. Then they kill him off at the hands of a character nowhere near as skilled or powerful in a disrespectful manner without him putting up anything resembling a fight (I mean, if you're going to kill an awesome villain, it should be in awesome fashion) for nothing more than a cheap shock and what could possibly be a thinly-veiled [[Take That]] to fans demanding his return. They replace him with his killer, who when introduced had been written purposely as an incompetent hero who found himself way over his head, thus introducing yet another insane Goblin (how creative), as well as limiting future storylines with the original Hobgoblin. Why was killing Roderick Kingsley, the original Hobgoblin, necessary to make Urich the new Hobgoblin?! They could have easily made a Hobgoblin without resorting to offing the old one! Many fans have outright refused to believe that the Hobgoblin that was killed was Kingsley, preferring to assume that it was another stooge set up to take the fall, but seeing how the trend in his appearances, it will probably be yet another (third) decade before he returns.

** Even if he is Z-list, there are people who remember reading and enjoying the "Green Goblin" series that first introduced Phil Urich, and many others who became familiar with an older version of the character from reading ''[[Spider Girl]]''. In the latter, Phil is a good friend and mentor to May Parker, and it's difficult not to like the guy. So to turn him into an insane killer is even more of a [[Wall Banger]] for fans of Phil due to the enormous [[Character Derailment]].

* The over-arching plot in ''Avengers Vs X-Men'' is that the Phoenix Force is returning to Earth, keying in on Hope Summers. The Avengers and a few of the X-Men want to try and hide Hope from the Phoenix, fearing that if the Phoenix gained a human host, it would be [[Dark Phoenix Saga|Dark Phoenix]] all over again. Among the current X-Men is Rachel Summers... the last human host of the Phoenix Force, who wielded the power for years as a hero and never once went as out of control as The Avengers have talked about. You'd think someone, like say Wolverine, who is an Avenger and knew both Rachel and Jean Gray, would mention this. Nope. You'd think the X-Men - many of whom, like Logan, were teammates with both Phoenixes - would mention this or the fact that Jean didn't really go crazy until her mind was mucked with by Mastermind? Again, nope. Rachel herself? ''Again. '''No.''' '' Basically the laziest, dumbest [[Excuse Plot]] ever devised to set up a [[Crisis Crossover]] EVER. (and with competition like Civil War and Dark Reign, that's saying something.)

* ''Captain America: Steve Rogers #1'' just revealed that after the 'Secret Wars' continuity reboot of 2015, Steve Rogers is now and has been since the 1930s ''a double agent for HYDRA''. Yes, that's right, Captain America was secretly a Nazi world domination cultist all along. I believe I speak for the entire fanbase here when I say '''what the fucking hell?!?'''

* ''[[Justice Society of America]]'' has been a consistently good series, but it's had its low points. Probably the worst was issue #11, which introduced Judomaster to the team. She was introduced in ''[[Birds of Prey]]'' a few months earlier; there, she spoke perfect English and had a snarky sense of humor. In ''JSA,'' she was [[Retcon]]ned into speaking solely [[Gratuitous Japanese]] and being a stereotypical [[The Stoic|stoic]] [[Samurai]] type obsessed with honor. Furthermore, she went up against a bunch of supervillains who are all horribly [[Yellow Peril|racist Japanese stereotypes]], including a gigantic, literally yellow-skinned sumo wrestler called Kamikaze whose superpower is ''blowing himself up'' when he says "Banzai". Judomaster herself is now a full-time member of the team but exists solely for the male characters to make goo-goo eyes at. It's a terrible waste of what could have been an interesting character. Oh, and just to seal the deal: ''[[Did Not Do the Research|She never does judo]]'', just [[Fan Service|a lot of high-kicks]]!

* ''[[Birds of Prey]]'' and Misfit: something went wrong with issue #113. Misfit (a sympathetic character) decides to push a blinking red button that is under a plexiglass safety cover (traditionally used for self-destruct buttons) inside an evil giant city-destroying robot despite being told not to. Unsurprisingly, it explodes, taking possibly hundreds or thousands of lives with it. But nobody blames her for it. She doesn't blame herself, either. The idea that she might be at fault is never even discussed in the text. Neither is any reason given for her doing this in the first place, since the giant city-destroying robot had been defeated!

*** Note that intercepting a radio conversation doesn't automatically tell you which person is on which end of the radio.

* So many things to say about ''[[All Star Batman and Robin]]''. Was it Batman's constant allusions to Robin's age coupled with a pedovibe? Was it Vicki Vale trouncing around the apartment in a bra and panties like vapid eye candy quoting lines from ''[[Clueless]]''? Was it "I'm the goddamn Batman"? This is prime material for unauthorized [[MST]]ing.

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* The Mary Marvel plot in ''[[Countdown to Final Crisis]].'' She wakes up from a coma with no powers; okay. She ends up getting powers from Black Adam (who later manifests the same powers again somehow). Okay. She wanders the entire multiverse for a while struggling to deal with this 'cursed' power rushing to her head, gets tempted by Eclipso, ultimately turns back to the side of good, and is rewarded by the gods. Okay. So far so good. {{spoiler|Then Darkseid shows up in her living room and says, "Hey, want to help me kill innocents to get your evil powers back?" She immediately agrees. In about one page, with zero [[Foreshadowing]].}} It's the absolute worst turn to the dark side (no pun intended) since [[Star Wars|Anakin.]]

* ''[[Countdown to Final Crisis|Countdown]]'' isn't compatible with ''Final Crisis''; the real "official" lead-ups are ''52'', ''Seven Soldiers'', and the ''"Dark Side Club"'' issues of several other books. That makes ''Countdown'' more Wallbangering than should be possible, given what it claims to be. Two cases in point:

## Mary Marvel turned evil in ''Final Crisis'' because she was possessed by Desaad, not by her own volition as seen in "Countdown."