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* [[Absurdly Youthful Mother]]: Most of the First Generation females, if you pair them up. Even if we assume that there are years between chapters, it seems unlikely that all of them were even 18 by the time they gave birth. [[Truth in Television]] though when we consider the more [[The Dung Ages]]-like approach this games takes in comparison to other ''Fire Emblem'' titles.

* [[Aliens Made Them Do It]]: Manfroy's plot involves quite a bit of this.

* [[Anyone Can Die]]: It's a war story. What do you expect? {{spoiler|The game even kills off the main character, rather suddenly}}.

* [[Arbitrary Headcount Limit]]: One of only two games in the series to [[Averted Trope|avert this.]] You will have up to 24 characters at a time and can use every one of them. This, of course, means that the ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' fanbase's obsession with [[Character Tiers]] is shifted to long, tortuous debates about [[Shipping]] instead.

* [[Awesome Yet Practical]]: The Holy Weapons are expensive to repair, yes, but so powerful, they kill in 1 or 2 hits, regardless of what you fight with them. Money won't be much of an obstacle if you're keen on gameplay, and every character with them will be [[Game Breaker|a freaking God of Death.]]

* [[Bag of Sharing]]: As averted as possible. Each character even has his or her own money. The only way to trade items between units is to sell an item to the pawn shop and then buy it back with the other unit. Thieves can give their money to any unit, but otherwise, only lovers can trade money with each other.

* [[Brother-Sister Incest]]: While other games have it relegated to subtle subtext at best, this game actually has it happen as a major plot point, occurring no matter what you do.

** To be fair, the main brother-sister couple in the game didn't know they were (half-)siblings.

** A glitch in the [[Relationship Values]] system allows the player to potentially pair up the main character of the second generation with his [[Mysterious Waif]] half-sister. {{spoiler|Said sister is the result of even further [[Brother-Sister Incest]]}}. This is actually a pretty popular pairing among the fans but it’s not otherwise possible, plot-wise.

* [[Cain and Abel]]: If a party member is stated to have a sibling and that sibling doesn't eventually join your team, they will show up as an enemy.

* [[Death Equals Redemption]]: The more sympathetic villains are generally shown to regret some of their worse acts, and usually predict their own demise before the engagement that confirms it.

* [[The Dev Team Thinks of Everything]]:

** If you hack Gungir into your inventory, the item description asks how you got it.

* [[Did Not Do the Research]]/[[Spell My Name with an "S"]]: Both averted and played straight. To say that the game borrows a lot of names from Norse mythology is like saying ''Thracia 776'' is mildly difficult and [[Shown Their Work|more than a few named-after items are spot-on]]. On the other hand, the official spellings for them are abominable even by [[Engrish]] standards. A weapon that is very obviously meant to be the Tyrfing, to provide the most egregious example, has been spelled as "Tailfang" and "Tyrhung]]. The [[Flip-Flop of God|Flip Flops Of God]] do not help.

* {{spoiler|[[Dropped a Bridge on Him]]: "Welcome to the party we're throwing for you, Siglud! Meet my wife, who ''was'' your wife before she was kidnapped and brainwashed! Now we're going to drop huge flaming rocks on you."}}

* [[Eleventh-Hour Superpower]]: {{spoiler|Julia with Narga}}.

* [[Even Evil Has Standards]]:

* [[Everyone Is Related]]: Many members of the first-generation party are either nobility or royalty, and these nobles and royals end up breeding with one another to create a Second Generation rebel army whose members are related not only everyone else on their own side but are also related to everyone on the other side, too. It's like one huge [[Family Feud|family]] [[Incredibly Lame Pun|feud]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20131203070324/http://serenesforest.net/fe4/family.html Here's the family tree].

* [[Evolving Weapon]]: Kill 50 units with the same weapon, even if it's a holy weapon, and the weapon will gain the Critical skill, with the critical chance increasing by 1% with each additional kill up to a maximum kill count of 100 ([[Game Breaker|a +50% critical bonus]]).

** Hell, this never ''stops'' being true. While he might veer into [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]] territory, he's only doing what he does because he's sure it's for the best.

* [[Genki Girl]]: Tailtiu, Silvia, Fee and Patty are all super cheery girls.

* [[Guide Dang It]]:

** There is a specific AI quirk that is difficult to figure out without trial and error where the enemy commander retreats to their castle to bring reinforcements if most of their squad were killed. They will retreat without regard to enemies on their way, even when they were blocking the castle entrance. Hannibal in Chapter 9 is one of these types of commanders and exploiting this quirk is the only way to make him easier to recruit.

* [[Heel Face Turn]]: Many characters (including one or two of the best) start off as enemy units who can be somehow convinced to join your cause.

* {{spoiler|[[The Hero Dies]]: Sigurd, the main character of the First Generation, is betrayed and murdered halfway through the game}}.

* [[Heroic Lineage]]: As the title implies, ''Genealogy of the Holy War'' does more with this trope than even most ''Fire Emblem'' games, applying it to much of the cast and even [[Gameplay and Story Integration|making it a game mechanic]].

* [[Hotter and Sexier]]: The Oosawa manga gets away with cranking up the sexiness in the storyline quite a bit, with several scenes involving characters having sex, in the middle of sexual afterglow, or having rather saucy fantasies about their romantic prospects. For example, the scene in which Deirdre and Sigurd confess their mutual love has Deirdre naked since she was bathing in a river before he came in, and they go through [[Their First Time]] right after their marriage ceremony.

* {{spoiler|[[I'm Dying, Please Take My MacGuffin|I'm Dying, Please Take My Infinity +1 Sword]]: How Sigurd gets the Tyrfing from his father}}.

* [[Infant Immortality]]: Averted. Hard. Hell, in a certain "Protect the Civilians for free levels" event, the civilians are little children of the "child" class (which is Civilian, except, justifiably, weaker). The enemy also explicitly kills children in the plot.

* [[Inferred Survival]]: How did the Second Generation children get their hands on extremely powerful, unique artifacts, if the previous bearers of said artifacts {{spoiler|all perished in an ambush}}?

* [[Infinity+1 Sword]]: The Holy Weapons: each provides magnificent onscreen bonuses to the Major-Blood characters wielding them ''and'' are always the best (or, since Swords and Spears have multiple Holy Bloodlines, second-or-third best) weapons of their class. This is ignoring the usual free Skill or Skills that these weapons provide.

* [[Interface Spoiler]]:

** Any character you can recruit will have a Luck score higher than 1.

** Units occupy set spaces in the castle screen, usually in order of when they're acquired; if you have a visible empty space surrounded by units, you're either going to recruit someone very soon or you missed someone.

* [[Inventory Management Puzzle]]: You literally have to sell your items then buy them back at double the price if you want to trade them around your units.

* [[Katanas Are Just Better]]: The Balmung, wind sword, and hero sword are all this.

* [[Kissing Cousins]]: It happens quite a few times with the preset stuff alone, but it has crazy potential depending on how you set up your pairings in the first generation.

* [[Lethal Joke Character]]: Dew, from the first generation. Starts at level one, with almost no offensive capabilities whatsoever, and he has without a doubt some of the best (base) growth rates in the first generation (sans HP). He's not [[Can't Catch Up|likely to contribute meaningfully to battles in the first generation]]; instead, his usefulness lies in the fact that he is one of the best [[Kidanova|fathers]] in the game because of those growth rates' being passed down, in addition to the Bargain skill. His biggest flaw, his low HP growth, is mitigated by the HP growth bonuses granted by all degrees of Holy Blood; he is one of the best to pair with Briggid, and he is a strong contender for other mothers of physically-oriented children such as Ayra or Lachesis, all three of whom pass some degree of Holy Blood onto their kids. Though it's true that Dew passes on some very good growths, Bargain (everything's half price), and Sun Hit (absorb damage dealt as HP), he's still usually considered inferior to other partners such as Lex or Holyn for Arya (both give Arya a Hero Sword to pass down, Lex gives Arya's kids Minor Neir blood, Elite (double experience gain) and Ambush (always attack first when HP is lower than 50%), though Lex doesn't pass any weapons onto Skasaher since Skasaher can't use axes, and Holyn gives Arya's kids Major Odo blood, giving them twice the stat bonuses of their usual Minor Odo blood as well as twice the benefit for using swords, which are the only weapons Arya's kids can use, and gives Skasaher his inventory; he also passes down Moonlight Hit, which is a mixed blessing since it competes with Arya's Comet Hit (which, 98% of the time, is much better) for activation) and Beowulf and Finn for Lachesis (both remedy Lachesis' lack of skills to pass onto her kids, providing them with Pursuit and, in Beowulf's case, Charge, both skills considered vitally necessary as they give units more attacks per battle; Delmudd is also able to inherit Beowulf's equipment).

* [[Lost Forever]]: Several characters if you don't recruit them, accidentally kill them, or don't manage to rescue them from the far-more-powerful-than-they mooks who spawn near them. ''Thracia 776'' even makes some characters become dark warlords if you miss them.

** Sometimes requires a great deal of effort to avoid losing recruits, such as in [[Fragile Speedster|Arya's]] case: you must avoid damaging her since you might inadvertently kill her (she has the fewest HP you have yet seen on any enemy unit as well as the lowest defense), she's unbelievably dangerous insofar as she has the opportunity to one-shot literally everyone in your party, ''and'' you can't recruit her until you take the castle she's guarding, being physically in your way. It's necessary to lure her away from the castle so you can kill the guards and take it, then run up to her and talk to her, all while being very careful never to engage her lest she pull off one of her relatively common ten-hit combos or lest

* [[Magikarp Power]]:

** Dew the Thief starts heavily under-leveled with almost no offensive capabilities whatsoever, but he has some of the best stat growth rates of the First Generation. Once promoted he will contribute substantially to battles, and if he gets married he will pass his high growths down to a Second Generation character.

* [[Nintendo Hard]]: It's part of Nintendo's long-running Fire Emblem series, noted for not being terrifically forgiving.

* [[Non-Lethal KO]]:

** Every time Deirdre falls in battle, she'll come back at the end of the chapter, unscathed because the enemy merely captured her.

* [[Properly Paranoid]]: Some villagers in the first half speak of periodic hunts declared by nobility to kill those accused of being of Loptous descent. {{spoiler|You witness a major justification in the second half}}.

* [[Recurring Boss]]: You'll see the [[Tor Hammer]] used against you more times than you'll care for, spanning ''three'' generations of users.

** Quite likely also the remnants of Johan's or Johalva's armies after you recruit one of them to your side.

* [[Star-Crossed Lovers]]: The tale of {{spoiler|Sigurd and Deirdre}} is a tragic one. They get married and have a young child, but then {{spoiler|Deirdre gets kidnapped and brainwashed into marrying her half-brother only to bear children that would have major Loptous blood. Then Sigurd gets killed}}.

* [[Storming the Castle]]: While many ''Fire Emblem'' games do this, every chapter in ''Genealogy of the Holy War'' literally involves storming multiple castles.

* {{spoiler|[[Time Skip]]: After Chapter 5}}.

* [[Too Awesome to Use]]: The Holy Weapons are very powerful, and anyone using one is granted numerous bonuses to their stats in addition to the high numbers attached to the weapon itself. It also does not take much work to wear them down, as it is not unusual for a player character to attack twice or three times per exchange, and Holy Weapons are painfully expensive to repair. Using one to fight in the arena will usually involve a repair bill swallowing up at least half the prize money, and using one to fight [[Mooks]] is overkill to the point of waste, especially in the case of the faster Holy Weapon users who trade harder hitting for more attacks. As such, Holy Weapons are better left off being used sparingly against strong opponents.

* [[Wham! Episode]]: {{spoiler|At the end of Chapter 5, Sigurd fights his way to his home and Arvis welcomes him with open arms... and then Sigurd and his army get massacred}}.

 

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* [[Cherry Tapping]] / [[Mercy Rewarded]]: Capture. Your stats are heavily lowered, but you can capture the defeated enemy and seize their items.

* [[Complete Monster]]: While this is obviously YMMV for the villains, ''Thracia'' reveals that there was a plan to ''create'' them in-universe. Those accepted to be nobles of {{spoiler|the new Lopt Empire}} would be taken from their families and raised to be this. In fact, it seems that doing your best to ''become'' one is a prerequisite for being one of the order's higher-ups. This is one of the reasons why Salem left.

* [[Fog of War]]: Introduced here.

* [[Foregone Conclusion]]: Well, obviously; as this game only ends about half-way through ''Seisen no Keifu''.

* [[Hero of Another Story]]: Leaf was just another character in the last game, but is now the main Lord.

* [[Hijacked by Ganon]]: The last chapter reveals {{spoiler|the Lopt Sect manipulatyed Trabant into killing Cuan and Ethlin.}} YMMV as to whether this is an improvement to the story or just an [[Ass Pull]] to give the final boss more of a personal connection to [[The Hero]].