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** The Graysons are early on are strawman conservatives, but are at least mildly open to new ideas, and whose views shift closer to center for fairly realistic reasons (many of which center around Honor saving their asses several times, though their leaders had designs on reshaping the society even before she came along and gave them a symbol to rally around). The Grayson ultra-conservative faction are Strawman Conservatives, but look sane compared to the formerly-Grayson ultra-extremists of Masada, who are effectively the Space Taliban.
** The Graysons aren't really strawman types: they're very highly conservative, but it's a fairly natural development of their history and the [[Death World|extremely harsh conditions]] they live under.
*** Even their sexual chauvinism is given far more nuance than such portrayals usually are; very few fictional depictions of a patriarchy have the patriarchs contend that their primary obligation is to protect women from abuse.
* In another David Weber example, the ''[[Starfire]]'' novels (which, admittedly, are collaborative works) make it easy to tell who the sniveling mush-brained idiots of the Terran Federation are - they're the ones with "Liberal" in their party name. The first novel written, ''Crusade,'' gives them the [[Idiot Ball]], and it seems they're still playing with it decades later. Although the Liberals' staunchest political allies (for reasons of pure self-interest) are the Core World [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|business interests]], who are Strawman Conservatives to a man, and carry the [[Villain Ball]] just as often as the Liberals carry the [[Idiot Ball]].
* In any novel by [[J. T. Edson]], any character described as "liberal" will be a coward, a hypocrite and a homosexual. [[Straw Loser|They will also be ugly and not bathe]].
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