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** There's considerable disagreement among fans about whether [[Harry Potter (film)|the first two movies]]' faithfulness to the books is their greatest strength or their greatest weakness. People in the first camp are likely to view ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' as a horrific plot hole-filled mess, while people in the second camp are likely to see it as when the movies finally started to get it right.
** There really is very little common ground at all when it comes to fans' opinions of the Harry Potter films. Ask a group of fans to rate the films in order and it's almost certain every film will end up on the top and bottom of someone's list. Even fans that broadly agree tend to still disagree. Fans that prefer the post-Columbus films will argue about which one is best, and even [[David Yates]] fans can't agree on if ''Order of the Phoenix'' or ''Half Blood Prince'' is best, and some will rank one top and one bottom.
** ''[[Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them]]'' was overall well-received, which can't be said of ''The Crimes of Grindelwald'' (as fun as the original, or a step down due to its overstuffed script with [[
* ''[[Ice Age]]: Dawn of the Dinosaurs'' is quite contested, some consider it an absolute disaster, others call it the best of the trilogy.
* ''[[Saw]] III''.
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* The fourth ''[[Die Hard]]'' is either another solid installment, or a demonstration that the series has become too outlandish (starting by John McClane being basically [[Made of Iron]]).
* ''[[Highlander]]'' has this in spades. Any film after the first is contested, with many recognizing only the first and the TV series.
* The [[Marvel Cinematic Universe]] has offered many. ''[[Iron Man 3]]'' is either a [[Surprisingly Improved Sequel]] or an inconsequential follow-up with a controversial approach to portray Iron Man's [[Arch Enemy]] on screen. ''[[Avengers: Age of Ultron]]'' was a worthy successor or [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks|a retread]] that lost its way with excessive characters and subplots. ''[[Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness]]'' is a fun flick with the strong [[Creator Thumbprint]] of [[Sam Raimi]]], or a weak follow-up that barely does anything with the concepts it raises. Is ''[[Thor: Love and Thunder]]'' good on its own right even if inferior to ''[[Thor: Ragnarok]]'', or it just re-does the predecessor wrong?
== Literature ==
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* Go to a [[Sierra]] fan board and ask if ''[[King's Quest: Mask of Eternity|King's Quest Mask of Eternity]]'' is a ''[[King's Quest]]'' game. Then ask them if it's a ''good'' game. Make sure to bring chocolate, marshmallows, and [[Incredibly Lame Pun|Graham crackers]] for the inevitable cookout.
* ''[[Supreme Commander 2]]'' removed the epic scale maps and unit options in return for intimate battles and more detail, making it easy for casual gamers to fight short battles.
* The first three ''[[Crash Bandicoot]]'' games and ''[[Crash Team Racing]]'' were made by Naughty Dog. Everything after that is [[Broken Base|hotly contested]]. Some say ''Crash Bash'' was still good, some say more or all of the games were good, and a very small portion only like the new games.
* ''[[Doom]] 3'' is either a scary survival horror interpretation of the classic franchise, or it's a game that tosses out everything fun about the first two games, while keeping all the things players grew to loathe about them.
* ''[[Tomb Raider]] Legend'' was a reboot of the series by a different developer, with as much changes as that implies. Let's just leave it to the [[Broken Base]] whether this is the point where it [[Growing the Beard|grew the beard]] or [[Jumping the Shark|jumped the shark]].
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* ''[[Ace Attorney|Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice For All]]'' is quite contested. On the plus side, the addition of the Magatama makes the investigation segments more interesting, while the trials are constrained to two days instead of three. The negatives are the unevenness of the cases, ranging from "Farewell My Turnabout" - generally accepted as one of the best of the ''Ace Attorney'' franchise - to "Turnabout Big Top" - featuring several of the [[The Scrappy|most hated]] one shot characters in the series, as well as almost no relevance to the surrounding cases.
** And then came ''[[Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney|Apollo Justice Ace Attorney]]''. Some people loved the improved graphics and animation, the plot's focus on the [[Kangaroo Court|weaknesses of the legal system]] and international politics, and the decreased emphasis on an increasingly complex continuity. Other people felt [[Replacement Scrappy|Apollo was an unworthy replacement for Phoenix]] and the middle two cases were goofy and poorly written with unmemorable villains.
* EVERY installment of the ''[[Monkey Island]]'' series has been contested by some fan or other. Some people don't like the second game's darker tone, the third game's cartoony style (and lack of Gilbert, Schafer, and Grossman), the fourth game's poor graphics/controls/grasp on the series continuity,
* ''[[Castlevania II]]'' attempted to take the platforming gameplay of its predecessor and build an [[Action RPG]] around it. Its reception was mixed enough that ''[[Castlevania III]]'' kept well away from its [[RPG Mechanics]] and continuity.
* ''[[Condemned]] 2: Bloodshot'' added a great deal of depth to the melee combat system, sharpened the graphics, and put in much more interesting forensic investigation. You either like it for those, or you dislike it for abandoning the creepy slums and giving the plot a ''ludicrous'' twist.
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** ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]''. Was it better than the first, or didn't live up to the excellence of the first?
** ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]''. The fanbase always fights over whether this one was superior to the original, or inferior.
* ''[[Duke Nukem Forever]]'' is considered this for several factors, such as not living up to the previous game, playing like the old game it was based on, [[Follow the Leader]], and several controversial issues [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment|that we don't need to go into here.]]
* ''[[Rayman]]'' 3: Hoodlum Havoc'', half the fanbase thinks it was the last good ''Rayman'' game, others think this was the game that made the series go downhill, and preferred the large, exploration-based levels of ''[[Rayman 2: The Great Escape]]''.
* While many fans of the ''[[Heroes of Might and Magic]]'' series despise the fourth installment due to turning the heroes into regular units (and allowing you to have your entire army composed of 7 uber-powerful heroes) and other gameplay changes, as well as (literally) destroying the old world developed in the first three games as well as ''Heroes Chronicles''. Others actually enjoy finally taking their heroes into the thick of battle and like exploring the new world. Then comes the fifth game, developed by a completely different company (in Russia), creates ''yet another'' world, this time completely unrelated to the rest of the franchise, changes the game mechanics (the heroes are once again merely generals, but still get their turn, during which they can attack or cast), and adds 3D graphics. But wait, there's more. The sixth game is made by a ''third'' developer. The fans are probably confused by this point.
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