Topic on User talk:NoxiousSludge

(What SU character in question due you think the show mishandled?) Well, Lusamine is a character who not only easily could have been a CM were not for the mitigating factors, but easily could be one in another adaptation if that incarnation removes the mitigating factors and makes her someone who knew damn well what intoxicating herself so much would do to her and what consequences her kids might suffer, but didn't care because she just came to see her obsession with all things Ultra Beast as worth more than the family she used to love and view as beautiful but now writes off as having grown ugly and worth discarding with no remorse at all.

But I can actually understand and appreciate why the game mitigated her villainy with the whole Drunk on the Dark Side angle and made her more tragic and potentially redeemable in the end, since otherwise she'd basically be Ghetsis' Distaff Counterpart and that would be pretty unoriginal. It's more interesting that contrast to Ghetsis, who acted solely for the love of himself and had either apathy or outright contempt for everyone else, Lusamine acted on what she believed was pure (albeit conditional) love for others that she found beautiful and worthy of her love, but it was truly out of a selfishness and madness in herself that she could no longer comprehend, and instead saw everyone who reacted understandably to how she hurt them as being the ungrateful, selfish, hateful ones - it's like morality was flipped on it's head for her intoxicated understanding of a situation versus the situations' actual reality. As for how much I feel for her, it's kind of in the middle - on one hand she's someone who'd never have said or done any of the things she did were she in her right state of mind, but on the other hand her intoxication is a direct result of her own carelessness and obsession with the work she did out of love. We see Guzma get possessed/intoxicated by Nihilego once and after that single occurrence of it, he backed the fuck off and never wanted to go through that again. But Lusamine, being bolder and more ambitious in her research, chose to keep doing it to herself. She wouldn't have become the abusive monster she became had she only recognized what should not be messed with and thought of the consequences. She's a Tragic Villain but not an innocent victim. Like Cyrus and Lsyandre before her, she's the architect of her own self-destruction.

YMMV because, as I said, I did feel sorry for her when everything about her became cleared up, and while her insanity in no way excuses her actions she committed while under the influence of the insanity-stimulation, it does give even her worst Moral Event Horizon moments a more understandable driving force aside from just "because she's evil." (Not sure about "got off way too easy" since she very nearly died from her merger with Nihilego and we have no idea what comes after her recovery - it's very likely she still has to serve time for her crimes against the Alola region and not have any custody of her kids anymore). I also liked the Aether Foundation as villains, but I prefer Team Skull as well. Doesn't everyone? XD

As for Yellow Diamond, I actually think the pain she feels in regards to Pink Diamond might go deeper than it does with Jasper or Blue Diamond, since I theorize that Yellow's probably directly responsible for what happened and why Rose had to shatter Pink. Which would show that for all her rage at Rose and atrocities against other Gems and Earth, there's a guilt factor at play too, which would also be something to disqualify her as an example. I do wonder about White Diamond, though - they could be saving her to be the final enemy and it's possible that she'll turn out to be the only antagonist who is just a flat out evil asshole ala Fire Lord Ozai. We'll just have to wait and see. (Disagree on the show's writing - I think it's still going pretty strong.)