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* [[Base Breaker]]: Arthas (as a Paladin), Varian, Garrosh, Sylvanas, and Gallywix.
** Thrall as of Cataclysm. A common fan sentiment is that they "like Thrall, but ''hate'' [[The Messiah|"Go'el"]]".
** Sky Admiral Rogers is viewed either as a badass Alliance leader who actually values the safety of her own soldiers over the enemy's, or a war criminal for [[Sink the Life Boats| killing surrendering Horde soldiers swimming to shore]] ([[Punch Clock Villain|especially since they may have been drafted by Garrosh]]).
** Sunwalker Dezco is seen either as a cool and tragic character, or a poorly written character that ruined the dynamic of Sunwalkers and acts like a human paladin despite having no ties with humanity.
** Rhonin's tendency for [[New Powers as the Plot Demands]] and to receive [[Character Shilling]] in his story have led to him being considered either a [[The Scrappy|Scrappy]] or [[Crazy Awesome]].
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* [[Catharsis Factor]]:
** The Seige of Orgrimmar raid is this for the Alliance. Well, many Horde players likely had no love for Garrosh either, but this raid actually lets you storm and invade the Horde capital itself and lay waste to the citizenry. Any beginning Alliance player who has been shot down after flying too near the place sees it as revenge.
** When you finally kill the Whale Shark in Vashj'ir. It doesn't drop anything or give XP, but this monster likely kills you several times while you try to explore the undersea zone, and finally killing the thing is satisfying. In fact, the Achievement you get has a fitting name, [[Shout -Out| "From Hell's Heart I]] [[Moby Dick| Stab at Thee".]]
** Players who felt bad after seeing [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HerNdsh_H-g| this cutscene] and/or [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE9HVy1vgws| this one] will experience a ''lot'' of Catharsis once they complete the Raid that ends with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uby0nBPVhZc| this one].
* [[Cliché Storm]]: the [[Large Ham]] bosses' favorite way of [[Calling Your Attacks]]. Originally done so you'd know how to prepare for an incoming attack but nowadays it's just tradition.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Quite a few villains qualify, although overall most of them tend to be Anti-Villains.
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* [[Old Shame]]: There are quite a few things Blizzard would like players to forget. In no particular order:
** The BlizzCon lesbian. Back during BlzzCon 2011, a fan who called herself "Brei" asked why there were no openly LGBT characters in the game. As often happens with controversial issues where opinions are required, the community completely blew up and a [[Flame War]] started. Eventually, Blizzard simply said it was because too many kids play the game, and swept it under the rug.
** Cyric, the mod often called the Troller of Trolls. Now, Trolls are a fact of life on game forums, but the Vanilla and Crusade eras were out of control. Cyric was a moderator who just couldn't take it anymore, and started [[He Who Fights Monsters| insulting the trolls with horrible profanity]], replying to each and every troll who replied to him as such. He actually got rid of a few, but was eventually fired for encouraging such behavior.
** Dear lord, the Pet Pit. Another problem they had in 2011 was gold sellers, and were cracking down on it. Then they released Guardian Cubs, collectible Battle Pets which you could buy with actual money and then sell in-game for inflated prices. This was seen as hypocrisy. Which it was. They even admitted that this is what it was for, admitting, "we're okay with it, if some players choose to use the Guardian Cub as a safe and secure way to acquire a little extra in-game gold without turning to third-party gold-selling services. However, please keep in mind that there's never any guarantee that someone will purchase what you put up for sale at the auction house." (That's a direct quote, by the way.) This was removed from the game quickly, due to the controversy, but the pets are still available (as Soulbound, meaning unsellable in-game).
** The Real ID forum was a case of [[Didn't Think This Through]]. During 2011 (seeing a trend here?) they had a policy that said you could only post if you used your real name, address, and email, making that info public. [["Not Making This Up" Disclaimer| Yeah, uh-huh.]] They assumed [[Even Evil Has Standards| trolls would be hesitant]] to insult someone they knew was a 12-year-old. Well, they underestimated how vile some of them were, and to say it didn't work was a ''very'' big understatement.
** As controversial as the BlizzCon lesbian was, Corpse Grinder George, a guest of Blizzard at again, 2011. The original interview (edited when released, thank goodness) was seven solid minutes of homophobic hate speech and endorsement of violence with ample use [[Cluster F Bomb| of the F-word]] directed at Alliance players. Why they promoted George in the first place (rather than kicked him out on his rear) caused outcry unlike Blizzard had ''ever'' seen before or since, causing them to make a public apology.
* [[Older Than They Think]]:
** Lor'themar actually wasn't invented for WoW and first showed up in a Korean-drawn comic.
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*** Though, since Thrall has become more and more of a blatant [[Creator's Pet]] throughout Cataclysm, more and more players are changing their minds about this, and now there is a new outcry starting {{spoiler|now that the creators have stated their intent to reinstate Thrall as Warchief at the end of [[Mo P]].}}
** Some fans see Lor'tbemar as this to Kael'thas as leader of the Blood Elves. It didn't help when Kael got [[Killed Off for Real]].
** Anduin seems to have the undeserved reputation as a wimp, mostly because [[Tough Act to Follow| his dad was so goddam awesome.]] His reluctance to lead and more pragmatic approach to doing so (as in, he resolves most conflicts without fighting) is seen as a weakness. While some characters claim he is [[Wise Beyond His Years]], players often regard him as a weak leader who has done ''nothing'' for the Alliance. Of course, [[Fan Dumb| most fans forget]] about how close the Alliance came to a bloody civil war that Varian would likely have caused (during ''Cataclysm'', no less) [[What Measure Is a Non-Badass?| had his son not stopped him]] from killing Magni... His upcoming role in ''Battle for Azeroth'' does seem to have helped his reputation a little.
* [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap]]: Arguably happens to Garrosh in Cataclysm. Then he is a villain in the next expansion.
* [[Ruined FOREVER]]: Former forum user Palehoof gives a good rundown [http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677635725 of all of the various changes Blizzard has made to the game that supposedly ruined World of Warcraft forever] (up to and including paid-for vanity pets). He was a [[Ascended Fanboy|Forum MVP]] for good reason.
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** Yrel, from ''Warlords'' is an NPC that starts out as a slave rescued from the Iron Horde who quickly becomes one of the players' most valued allies. Heroes who go [[From Nobody to Nightmare]] are common, but Yrel seems to do so a little too quickly for [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief]] to handle, and players find her annoying.
* [[Scrappy Level]]:
** Vashj'ir, for its mob density causing mobs to have a completely three dimensional attack range as well as how many bugs it had and respawn rates up the wazoo. Players rarely come here anymore unless they need to mine Obsidian, which is kind of a shame, [[The One Thing I Don't Hate About You| as the place ''is'' rather beautiful.]]
** Gnomeregan. First off, you need a parachute to get from one area to the next, and the NPC you get it from is ''not'' all-that obvious unless you're there for the first time and doing the Dungeon Quest. Second, if you're a class that depends on pets - like Warlocks and Rangers - using them is a good way to aggro every mob in the place and overwhelm the entire party.
** The Oculus; vehicle combat is something of a [[Scrappy Mechanic]] in this game, and the Oculus is ''a whole dungeon'' that depends on it. Not all too fun or enjoyable.
** Uldaman. It's actually something of a [[My Greatest Failure]] amongst the developers, since they wanted it to be a winged dungeon yet wound up with a rather tedious dungeon with a pretty unique boss mechanic. The main downfall of Uldaman was that the level range was ''too high''. Normally you're good if you're within a couple levels of their dungeon mobs, but in Uldaman, you'd start off at the mid 30s, but later on would get to 40+ meaning low level players would [[Surprise Difficulty|get ambushed by mobs in their 40s]]. For awhile the recommended level range ended at ''51''. It has been nerfed a ''boatload'' of times and [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap|became a much better dungeon since]]. Oh, and Enchanters had to run this because there was a trainer in there.
** Tol Barad is the most disliked battleground, because the attacker must capture all three bases to win and gain control of Baradin Hold and the Tol Barad dailies, whereas if the defender has one base under their control or not completely taken by end of the time limit, they keep Tol Barad for another two hours.
** Sithicus is this because for some reason, [[Obvious Beta| it was unfinished.]] It was this little corner in Kalimdor that, for some reason, wasn't covered in the guide, but there were actually a few quest chains in there. When you entered, you found this wall that you couldn't get past; literally half the map of Silithus was unfinished. It also became an [[Obvious Beta]] (along with Eastern Plaguelands) for an attempt at creating world PvP. It was later finished in patch 1.8, but was still plagued with mob-density problems. Eventually, Blizzard decided to nuke the entire zone - literally - as part of the storyline leading up to ''Battle For Azeroth'', giving it some purpose in-story, but very little for gameplay.
* [[Scrappy Mechanic]] : '''Daze''', a debuff that's present on everything in the game within minimal level range that dismounts and slows you if you're attacked from behind, it can make "Short jaunt through this area" into "Will you stop knocking me off my horse?!"
* [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]]: Prior to Cataclysm, the old world and well, a lot of this game in general has had elements copied by others. Would you believe that this game had given enough content to justify an expansion pack, yet they chose to wait off until they had much more content for a single one?
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* [[Woolseyism]]: In the Chinese version, [http://www.wowpedia.org/File:Lord_Marrowgar.jpg Lord Marrowgar] gets a [http://www.wowpedia.org/File:Chinagar.jpg different look] because bones aren't allowed to be shown in video games there.
 
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