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All The Tropes is not just about tropes and the works that use them. Frequently information about an [[Authors|author]], [[Actors|actor]], [[Directors|director]], [[Producers|producer]], [[mangaka]], [[Composers|composer]], [[Animators|animator]], [[Video Game Companies|developer]], or other creator will be relevant to our understanding of the tropes in their works. To that end, we have [[Creator]] pages.
All The Tropes is not just about tropes and the works that use them. Frequently information about an [[Authors|author]], [[Actors|actor]], [[Directors|director]], [[Producers|producer]], [[mangaka]], [[Composers|composer]], [[Animators|animator]], [[Video Game Companies|developer]], or other creator will be relevant to our understanding of the tropes in their works. To that end, we have [[Creator]] pages.


These pages document information about creators pertaining to their works and the tropes they use. [[No Such Thing As Notability|Any creator can have a page if someone is willing to make it.]] However, we want to see pages with substance -- please spend the time and effort to tell us something about the creator and his work. If you can't say more than a single sentence about them, it may be deleted as a "Zero-Content" page. (And if the creator and his work inspire you to create a page for them, why ''can't'' you say more than a sentence?)
These pages document information about creators pertaining to their works and the tropes they use. [[No Such Thing As Notability|Any creator can have a page if someone is willing to make it.]] However, we want to see pages with substance – please spend the time and effort to tell us something about the creator and his work. If you can't say more than a single sentence about them, it may be deleted as a "Zero-Content" page. (And if the creator and his work inspire you to create a page for them, why ''can't'' you say more than a sentence?)


Creator pages are created with the [[MediaWiki:Creators|Creators Page template]]. This template automatically lays out the proper structure for a creator page, and assigns it to the [[:Category:Creator|Creator]] category. We also have several other templates -- such as <code>{{tl|actorroles}}</code>, <code>{{tl|discography}}</code>, and <code>{{tl|creatortropes}}</code> -- especially designed for use on Creator pages.
Creator pages are created with the [[MediaWiki:Creators|Creators Page template]]. This template automatically lays out the proper structure for a creator page, and assigns it to the [[:Category:Creator|Creator]] category. We also have several other templates – such as <code>{{tl|actorroles}}</code>, <code>{{tl|discography}}</code>, and <code>{{tl|creatortropes}}</code> – especially designed for use on Creator pages.


Note that not all pages about people will fall into this category. Some, such as [[The Presidents of the United States of America (politics)|The Presidents of the United States of America]], are [[Useful Notes]] and/or [[Historical Domain Character]]s.<ref>Unless, like [[Ronald Reagan]], they were both creators and politicians... and sometimes not even then.</ref> '''Unlike [[TV Tropes]], though, we count performers of ''all'' stripes -- including [[Musicians|musicians, bands,]] and [[Professional Wrestling|professional wrestlers]] -- as Creators.''' Please note that even though we include professional wrestlers, professional athletes of other kinds are ''not'' counted as creators. Professional athletes who are ''only'' athletes, who have not also made efforts in a creative field such as acting or writing, are outside the wiki's scope. We are not All The Sports. Being able to hit a baseball, bowl a wicked googly, or make a goal does not make a person a "creator".
Note that not all pages about people will fall into this category. Some, such as [[The Presidents of the United States of America (politics)|The Presidents of the United States of America]], are [[Useful Notes]] and/or [[Historical Domain Character]]s.<ref>Unless, like [[Ronald Reagan]], they were both creators and politicians... and sometimes not even then.</ref> '''Unlike [[TV Tropes]], though, we count performers of ''all'' stripes – including [[Musicians|musicians, bands,]] and [[Professional Wrestling|professional wrestlers]] – as Creators.''' Please note that even though we include professional wrestlers (because of [[Kayfabe]]), professional athletes of other kinds are ''not'' counted as creators. Professional athletes who are ''only'' athletes, who have not also made efforts in a creative field such as acting or writing, are outside the wiki's scope. We are not All The Sports. Being able to hit a baseball, bowl a wicked googly, or make a goal does not make a person a "creator".


And it should go without saying, but do ''not'' create pages for fictitious or bogus creators. Doing so will get you permanently banned.
And it should go without saying, but do ''not'' create pages for fictitious or bogus creators. Doing so will get you permanently banned.
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* '''Tropes applied to the creator as if they are a fictional character.''' Please resist the urge to apply character tropes to [[Real Life]] people. We've had a lot of [[Square Peg, Round Trope]] issues in the past with this, so as a general guideline, it's best to apply [[No Real Life Examples, Please]] to creators. If it seems harmless, it might be overlooked [[Just for Fun]], and there is an exception for [[Conversational Troping]] as mentioned above, but on the whole this is something [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement|best avoided]].
* '''Tropes applied to the creator as if they are a fictional character.''' Please resist the urge to apply character tropes to [[Real Life]] people. We've had a lot of [[Square Peg, Round Trope]] issues in the past with this, so as a general guideline, it's best to apply [[No Real Life Examples, Please]] to creators. If it seems harmless, it might be overlooked [[Just for Fun]], and there is an exception for [[Conversational Troping]] as mentioned above, but on the whole this is something [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement|best avoided]].
* '''Tropes that apply to ''individual'' works they've created.''' Any tropes listed should be relevant to their work as a whole, not to just one work. So if a trope only applies to ''one'' work they've made, please list it on that work's page instead.
* '''Tropes that apply to ''individual'' works they've created.''' Any tropes listed should be relevant to their work as a whole, not to just one work. So if a trope only applies to ''one'' work they've made, please list it on that work's page instead.
* '''Creator Bashing.''' Creator pages should not be used to complain about how much a person sucks. We're not here to hate on people. It's okay to have problems with their works, but that doesn't give you a license to abuse a creator. Please keep it reasonably neutral. If it ''can't'' be kept neutral, and/or descends into an [[Edit War]], All The Tropes may have to lock the page -- or worse, delete it and ''then'' lock it. We don't want to have to do that. Don't make us.
* '''Creator Bashing.''' Creator pages should not be used to complain about how much a person sucks. We're not here to hate on people. It's okay to have problems with their works, but that doesn't give you a license to abuse a creator. Please keep it reasonably neutral. If it ''can't'' be kept neutral, and/or descends into an [[Edit War]], All The Tropes may have to lock the page – or worse, delete it and ''then'' lock it. We don't want to have to do that. Don't make us.
* '''Subjectivity and YMMV.''' We don't list [[YMMV]] items for real-life people. That includes creators. Please don't list [[Audience Reactions]] or [[YMMV]] for a creator.
* '''Subjectivity and YMMV.''' We don't list [[YMMV]] items for real-life people. That includes creators. Please don't list [[Audience Reactions]] or [[YMMV]] for a creator.
* '''[[Perverted Drooling|Drooling.]]''' In the past, we've had pages for actresses that consisted primarily of gushing about how hot they are. [[All The Tropes:No Lewdness, No Prudishness|This is not okay.]] It's inappropriate and will not be tolerated.
* '''[[Perverted Drooling|Drooling.]]''' In the past, we've had pages for actresses that consisted primarily of gushing about how hot they are. [[All The Tropes:No Lewdness, No Prudishness|This is not okay.]] It's inappropriate and will not be tolerated.
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