Broken Base/Real Life/Sports

Everything About Fiction You Never Wanted to Know.


Ahh, what does a true sports fan love more than doing battle with others?

Baseball

  • Billy Beane and his "Moneyball" system either does what nobody else thought to do to - make a great baseball team on a shoestring budget, or created an overrated endlessly-copied system which makes for boring play and limited success in the postseason and gives cheap general managers an excuse for not paying people what they're worth. (For the uninitiated, he uses spreadsheets and such to determine from past statistics who the most underrated players are, and he rejects some flashy strategies like stealing in favor of whatever has the highest statistical probability of getting a run.)
  • Dispute over different rules codes, or between supporters and opponents of a change in the rules. For example, the "designated hitter" rule in effect in Major League Baseball's American League (but not the National League) has its supporters and detractors. There are also differences in rules between professional and college football, and between professional and college basketball, the relative merits of which are disputed by fans of the sport.
  • The Yankees/Red Sox rivalry: greatest rivalry in sports or Creator's Pet of baseball due to its massive coverage by ESPN

Hockey

  • Go ask NHL fans how teams in warm weather cities are doing, and prepare to duck from the flames. On one side are fans who point to Dallas, San Jose and Anaheim as proof that the sport can succeed in places without snow; on the other are the fans who point to Florida, Atlanta and Phoenix as proof that the sport doesn't work in such areas, with Carolina, Los Angeles and Tampa used by both sides to prove their point. Don't even try touching the debate about whether the league should be on ESPN or Versus, either; the correct answer is, of course, the CBC.
  • Also, prepare to run from the chaos that will ensue if you say Alexander Ovechkin is better than Sidney Crosby, or vice-versa.
    • This seems to be dying down since it looks like while Alex is good, Sid before his unfortunate concussion was clearly surpassing his famous rival.
  • A discussion of NHL fan opinion split that doesn't include the phrase 'shootout'? For shame. It's not just the fans that are divided, opinion of its effect on the game are divided amongst the players!
  • Also... fighting in hockey. Many hockey fans love a good tumble but there are many fans who refuse to watch the NHL but love the international juniors because of its clean fight-free play.

Football

  • Which game gets the name, and what do you call the other ones?

Gridiron

  • Peyton Manning is either the Jesus Christ of professional American football, or he's an overrated, whiny douchebag who chokes in pressure situations. The latter group had mostly grown silent since the Colts won Super Bowl XLI, but their loss to the Saints was like miracle CPR to them, as Manning threw a critical interception in the fourth quarter of Super Bowl XLIV which ensured a Colts defeat.
  • Michael Vick, before, during and after his conviction and jail term for dog-fighting: "He's paid his debt. Leave him be" crowd vs. the "That dogkiller should be a pariah" crowd.
  • Similarly (to an extent), Ben Roethlisberger following the Pittsburgh Steeler quarterback following the recent string of accusations of sexual assualt (particularly a 2010 accusation that led to his being suspended for the first four games of that season).
  • College football's BCS. Is it really better than what there was before? What teams should be involved in a given year? Do teams from outside the power conferences have a fair chance? And the big one: Should the whole thing just be blown up and replaced with a playoff? If the BCS is replaced with a playoff, how many teams can be eligible and how can a team be eligible?
  • Tim Tebow for NFL fans. His outspoken religiosity tends to be a Base Breaker. His abilities as a quarterback even more. Although he led the Denver Broncos to some amazing comeback victories in the 2011 season, his (in)ability to pass well has sparked much criticism.
    • Although his fans and detractors at least seem to agree that the Tebowing phenomenon is highly amusing, and it has become one of the first major memes of the Internet age that isn't restricted to younger generations, but apparently enjoyed by all age groups in America. (for any Europeans reading this, do a Google image search for Tebowing, you'll see what we mean).

Soccer

  • For whatever incomprehensible reason, fans of The Beautiful Game absolutely adore getting into online flame wars about whether to call it "soccer" or "football".
    • And in real life, too.

John Oliver: When you call the sport by that name [soccer], an Englishman dies.

  • Arsene Wenger: a manager doing the best he can with limited finances, or a stubborn manager who has focussed on his youth policy to the detriment of the team?
  • Manchester City (and before that, Chelsea): Teams just doing what's necessary to compete with Manchester United by spending bucketloads of cash, or ruining The Beautiful Game by distorting competition?
  • Who is the greater/more iconic English football team: Liverpool or Manchester United?
  • The Premier League: The best league in the world that provides thrilling entertainment, or a cash cow that has spoiled the game, concentrated the trophies in too few hands, and that the lower leagues represent "proper" football?
  • Barcelona: One of the best sides of all time that provide brilliant entertainment or diving, whining cheats that aren't really that exciting anyway because they just pass it without actually doing anything with it?
  • Stoke City & Tony Pulis: Practical, pragmatic tactics that allowed Stoke to stay in the Premier League, get to a cup final and qualify for Europe, or dire, dull and dirty?

Other Sports

  • Sports message boards are rife with this kind of strife, even setting aside the classic, easily mockable (Yankees Suck!/Red Sox suck!) back-and-forths between fanbases. Within a fandom there is almost always a Broken Base. Best-case scenario, fans of a team will simply disagree on the quality of a given transaction. Over a long enough time, however, fans who frequently criticize management are usually accused of disloyalty or outright troll status, while those who frequently defend management are considered irrational fanboys incapable of independent thought. And that's without mentioning the cults of personality that tend to develop around certain players; if the two players should happen to compete for playing time with each other, the Flame Wars can get quite messy. Serious Business, indeed.
  • Stephan Marbury, he's either a selfish Jerkass who destroyed the Knicks organization, or a guy who was vindictively, blackballed and railroaded because of his testimony at a sexual harassment case that was leveled at the Knicks organization (which damaged their case). Or all of the above..
  • Fans of the Houston Rockets have been having a civil war for a long time now over star Tracy McGrady. His defenders say he's a hard-working player who battled through injuries, was forced to have major surgery, and then after working extremely hard on the rehab has been benched due to their vindictive coach or GM. His attackers view him as a selfish media hound who puts himself before the team, has been faking his injuries for the last 2 years, and is no longer part of the new star-less system created by their brilliant coach and GM that has done wonders for the team. And then we don't even get into the GM, Daryl Morey, who has been bringing the "Moneyball" approach described below into basketball.
  • Kimbo Slice for many mixed-martial art fans. Is he a real fighter, one from the street with no training who just had a bad run, or a hustler who scammed his way onto national television for a buck?
  • North American open-wheel racing:
    • The split (from 1996 to 2008): did you like Champ Car (more road racing and undoubtedly the more popular drivers up until around 2002) or the Indy Car Series (strictly ovals until 2005, including the Indy 500, but started adding non-ovals prior to the open-wheel reunion)?
    • After the split: The all-or-mostly ovals schedule that was part of the Indy Car Series' original plan, or the roughly 50/50 schedule between ovals and road/street courses that's taken effect since 2009? Do you like how similar the cars are, or does it turn you off? Is Danica Patrick a legitimately good racer or is she just eye candy that happened to get a win in 2008?
  • You'd be surprised to hear how much people just argue about balls. Yes, actual balls used to play the sport. Probably the most pronounced of those debates has to be in basketball. One group (especially in America) swears by the Wilson Evolution for it's soft sticky feeling, others tell the Evo is just no good and that the natural leather NBA ball is really the one true way to play basketball, a third rejects both and prefers the weighty feel of the Spalding TF 1000... In short, if a company produces an indoor leather basketball, it's gonna cause debates. To the point people outright refuse to play if a different ball to their preferred one is brought in. Outdoor balls are, amusingly enough, far less of a topic for arguing - they're a Necessary Evil that you play with only because there is no gym to rent nearby.
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