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* [[Die for Our Ship]]: Kristoff unfortunately suffers from this by some Elsa/Anna shippers. While most fanfic writers prefer to either ignore him or move his relationship with Anna to [[Platonic Life Partners]] by making him her wingman, a good number of Elsa/Anna fan works have also portrayed him as a gross slob that makes Anna only notice how much "better" Elsa is.
* [[Fan Preferred Pairing]]:
** Anna/Elsa. [[Incest Is Relative|Their being sisters has done little to curb fan enthusiasm for this ship]]. There are however quite a few AU fics/art pieces that portray them as not being related to avoid this [[Squick]] factor... which doesn't negate the fact that canon still informs their interactions, [[Fridge Logic|and that this means their fans will see these characters explicitly established as ''sisters'' and think they would make a good couple]].
** Elsa with Jack Frost from ''Rise of the Guardians'' is the most popular non-Elsanna ship, and might just be more popular. They're not even from the same universe but are still largely shipped together (especially by the younger side of the fanbase).
* [[Incest Yay Shipping]]: Anna/Elsa; given the nature of the story has both this and [[Les Yay]]. It's not really that surprising, and very little from the film does much to dissuade fans from thinking along these lines. Perhaps best shown by how {{spoiler|the act of true love that thaws Anna's heart is that of her sister.}}
* [[Internet Backdraft]]: The switch to CGI and the ''[[Tangled]]''-like title was not well-received in the slightest. The sheer fact that some insiders and [[Word of God|John Lasseter]] himself said that the opening sequence of the cel-animated version was [[Beyond the Impossible|some of the best hand-drawn animation Disney has ever done]] didn't help.
* [[Internet Backdraft]]: The switch to CGI and the ''[[Tangled]]''-like title was not well-received in the slightest. The sheer fact that some insiders and [[Word of God|John Lasseter]] himself said that the opening sequence of the cel-animated version was [[Beyond the Impossible|some of the best hand-drawn animation Disney has ever done]] didn't help.
* [[No Yay]]: Other than the fact that it's, well, [[Squick|incest]], many who dislike the Anna/Elsa pairing feel that shipping the two ruins the message of the film, that platonic/familial love is as strong and wonderful as romantic love. Shipping the two ignores that, looping back around to "romantic love is the only love that matters"; fanfics that try to bypass this by making Anna and Elsa unrelated makes it worse by turning it into a standard A-meets-B-and-instant-love, exactly the opposite of the movie's message (Although there is something to be said about the film's message having ''already'' been ruined via a [[Broken Aesop]]; see [[Relationship Writing Fumble]] below).
* [[Relationship Writing Fumble]]: The message of the film is that romantic love isn't the only type of love, and Elsa and Anna's relationship is used to represent familial love being just as strong and important. However, this falls flat since Elsa and Anna [[Incest Subtext|act more like jilted lovers around each other than actual ''sisters'']]. The coronation scene where Anna becomes flustered and starts tripping over her words when Elsa calls her "beautiful", not to mention her reaction to Elsa's new appearance when they reunite, are both loaded with subtext, Elsa hiding her powers can easily be read as an [[Does This Remind You of Anything|allegorical coming-out story]], she has serious [[Power Incontinence]] for the first time after Anna announces her engagement (when it's established that this happens because of pain and fear), [[Shipper on Deck|the trolls]] that try to get Anna and Kristoff together singing about how love is used to heal and help others actually makes much more sense in reference to Elsa, and Anna's "I love you" at the end comes across seeming more romantic than any interaction she has with Hans ''or'' Kristoff due to them not getting as much screentime with her. Hell, there's even [http://yamino.tumblr.com/post/69413868245/ some very awkward merchandise] that almost seems to portray them as a couple. Also, it's really common for Disney movies to end with the princess kissing or embracing her lover; ''Frozen'' ends with Anna {{spoiler|kissing Kristoff, but then going ice skate holding hands with Elsa, [[Intertwined Fingers]] and everything}}. This has led to [[Incest Yay Shipping]] for some, and [[No Yay]] or [[Squick]] for those averse to these kinds of pairings.


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  • Die for Our Ship: Kristoff unfortunately suffers from this by some Elsa/Anna shippers. While most fanfic writers prefer to either ignore him or move his relationship with Anna to Platonic Life Partners by making him her wingman, a good number of Elsa/Anna fan works have also portrayed him as a gross slob that makes Anna only notice how much "better" Elsa is.
  • Fan Preferred Pairing:
  • Incest Yay Shipping: Anna/Elsa; given the nature of the story has both this and Les Yay. It's not really that surprising, and very little from the film does much to dissuade fans from thinking along these lines. Perhaps best shown by how the act of true love that thaws Anna's heart is that of her sister.
  • Internet Backdraft: The switch to CGI and the Tangled-like title was not well-received in the slightest. The sheer fact that some insiders and John Lasseter himself said that the opening sequence of the cel-animated version was some of the best hand-drawn animation Disney has ever done didn't help.
  • No Yay: Other than the fact that it's, well, incest, many who dislike the Anna/Elsa pairing feel that shipping the two ruins the message of the film, that platonic/familial love is as strong and wonderful as romantic love. Shipping the two ignores that, looping back around to "romantic love is the only love that matters"; fanfics that try to bypass this by making Anna and Elsa unrelated makes it worse by turning it into a standard A-meets-B-and-instant-love, exactly the opposite of the movie's message (Although there is something to be said about the film's message having already been ruined via a Broken Aesop; see Relationship Writing Fumble below).
  • Relationship Writing Fumble: The message of the film is that romantic love isn't the only type of love, and Elsa and Anna's relationship is used to represent familial love being just as strong and important. However, this falls flat since Elsa and Anna act more like jilted lovers around each other than actual sisters. The coronation scene where Anna becomes flustered and starts tripping over her words when Elsa calls her "beautiful", not to mention her reaction to Elsa's new appearance when they reunite, are both loaded with subtext, Elsa hiding her powers can easily be read as an allegorical coming-out story, she has serious Power Incontinence for the first time after Anna announces her engagement (when it's established that this happens because of pain and fear), the trolls that try to get Anna and Kristoff together singing about how love is used to heal and help others actually makes much more sense in reference to Elsa, and Anna's "I love you" at the end comes across seeming more romantic than any interaction she has with Hans or Kristoff due to them not getting as much screentime with her. Hell, there's even some very awkward merchandise that almost seems to portray them as a couple. Also, it's really common for Disney movies to end with the princess kissing or embracing her lover; Frozen ends with Anna kissing Kristoff, but then going ice skate holding hands with Elsa, Intertwined Fingers and everything. This has led to Incest Yay Shipping for some, and No Yay or Squick for those averse to these kinds of pairings.