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* [[Downloadable Content|DLC]]: Fortunately, the DLC in the PSP version of ''Tactics Ogre'' that had to be downloaded in the Japanese version is naturally written into the English version; no download necessary.
* [[Dogged Nice Guy]]: In Tactics Ogre, judging from final chapter death quote; Folcust to Cistina. Arycelle might be a 'Dogged Nice Girl' for Leonar. Also Vyce to Catiua, but only in Lawful route, since in Chaotic route, you don't associate Vyce with 'nice'.
* [[Dub Name Change]]: The PSP remake changes some characters names. Denim Powell is now Denam Pavel, Kachua has become Catiua (still pronounced the same way though) and Vice has been renamed Vyce, and so forth. Generally the changes work, but the spelling is odd. Olivya? Arycelle? <ref>Better than "Alo'''s'''er" at least...</ref>
* [[Dual-Wielding]]: You can naturally wield two one-handed weapons, but unless you have the double attack skill, you won't actually use them at the same time.
* [[Dub Name Change]]: The PSP remake changes some characters names. Denim Powell is now Denam Pavel, Kachua has become Catiua (still pronounced the same way though) and Vice has been renamed Vyce, and so forth. Generally the changes work, but the spelling is odd. Olivya? Arycelle? <ref>Better than "Alo'''s'''er" at least...</ref>
* [[Duel Boss]]: There are a couple... and they're usually allowed a cheap shot at you at the beginning, [[Guide Dang It|which is bad news for people]] who made their hero a [[Squishy Wizard]].
** Oz in ''Tactics Ogre'' starts off this way in the lawful route. And then you both get reinforcements...seems like a precursor to what became [[That One Boss]] in its [[Spiritual Successor]], ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]''.
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** They make nice platforms to get your troops to higher ground in the Tactics games.
* [[False-Flag Operation]]: {{spoiler|In Tactics Ogre, whether or not Denim takes part in this determines his path through the rest of the game. Somewhat surprisingly, choosing to slaughter the town is the ''lawful'' choice.}}
** {{spoiler|This is unsurprising, as his orders are to slaughter the town, and lawful people follow orders.}}
* [[Fantasy Counterpart Culture]]: Some elements are intentionally taken from Eastern Europe, especially former Yugoslavia and the old Byzantine Empire. There's also the Hagia Banhamuba, which presumably has at least some resemblance to the Hagia Sophia on the outside.
* [[Faux Action Girl]]: For some reason, Cerya can be seen as this. She's said to be a [[Badass]] [[Action Girl]] leader of the Valeria Liberation Front and [[Informed Ability|kills lots of Lodissions... off screen]]. Then, you need to bail her out from the Dark Knights, or she gets killed without you seeing (only in Lawful route). And when you do get her? For some reason, she can't really hit a thing with hit rate over 50%.
** Possibly inverted, gender-wise by Lanselot Hamilton as well. Anyone who plays ''March of the Black Queen'' knows that Lanselot is one of the playable characters and can grow powerful. In ''Let Us Cling Together''? He got cheap-shotted by Barbas/Martym (OFF SCREEN), gets himself imprisoned by Lanselot Tartaros, {{spoiler|mentally tortured to the point that by the ending, he's turned into some sort of vegetable.}}
* [[For Want of a Nail]]: Explored via the chapter system. Characters who are ''vital'' in one timeline can be near afterthoughts in the other. Characters who would be villains in one can be some of your most powerful allies in another. The text entry describing the [[New Game+|World]] system in the post-game lampshades this slightly, explaining that duplicates, dead people, etc have all been seen in your party recently.
** {{spoiler|Vyce takes the cake, however -- he turns on the party no matter what decision you make, but in the Chaos route he [[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope|swan dives off the slippery slope]], in the Law route he actually becomes ''heroic'' -- fitting, since it's later revealed he doesn't really care about either path as much as he cares about going up against '''[[The Rival|you.''']] }}
* [[Freudian Excuse]]: {{spoiler|Lanselot Tartaros}} had such a big one it took {{spoiler|an entire [[Gaiden Game]]}} to establish it.
* [[Gender-Restricted Ability]]: Less so in the PSP, which re-balanced some classes (Witches were turned into the female version of Wizards, both can now cast damage and support magic) and added opposite gender variants of the existing ones that did not have a close counterpart. There are, however, gender restricted pieces of equipment, such as [[Paper Fan of Doom|fans]] and [[Whip It Good|whips]].
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** Getting any special recipes and items. They're only dropped by certain enemies on specific stages, which you'll have a hard time figuring out without [[Guide Dang It]]. And these same enemies don't necessarily even spawn in the battles at all. And in case if that wasn't enough, the enemies won't necessarily drop all or any of their belongings. Even if you use CHARIOT, you might still have to spend a good amount of time until you'll get what you wanted. Oh, and did I mention that there's also a party level requirement for even having a chance of getting that awesome gear? Good luck [[100% Completion|hunting]].
* [[Handicapped Badass]]: Hobyrim, the first Swordmaster you're likely to get. {{spoiler|Is a "retired" Knight of Lodis. They cut his eyes out for his trouble.}}
* [[Heroic Bastard]]: {{spoiler|Vice in Tactics Ogre's Law route. Other routes turn him into a literal bastard}}.
* [[Heel Face Turn]]: {{spoiler|Depending on your routes, you can recruit [[High Heel Face Turn|Dark Knight Ozma]] in the remake.}}
** Given the route system, just about every character is on at least one "villain" side depending on your point of view. {{spoiler|This includes Denam.}}
* [[Heroic Bastard]]: {{spoiler|Vice in Tactics Ogre's Law route. Other routes turn him into a literal bastard}}.
* [[I Did What I Had to Do]]: Denam himself can make such a choice by taking the Law route. He is surprisingly less angsty than one would think.
* [[I Hate You, Vampire Dad]]: Subverted. Nybeth the Necromancer tried to bring his son back to life using Forbidden Magic. However his son comes back as an undead knight, with no memory or personality. It's for this reason his daughter Orias hates him.
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* [[Loads and Loads of Characters]]: Much like ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'' there enough unique characters to form two or more full teams.
* [[Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter]]: Mad Necromancer Nybeth has ''three'' beautiful daughters, two of which rebel from their father and are recruitable, though in different paths. [[Guide Dang It|Cressida is maddeningly more difficult to recruit than Oelias.]]
* [[Magic Knight]]: Magic Knights up the wazoo! Valkyries (and the male counterpart Rune Fencers), Terror Knights, regular Knights, Vartans, Knight Commanders, Catiua's Princess class, Denam's Lord class...
* [[Magic Is Mental]]
* [[Magic Knight]]: Magic Knights up the wazoo! Valkyries (and the male counterpart Rune Fencers), Terror Knights, regular Knights, Vartans, Knight Commanders, Catiua's Princess class, Denam's Lord class...
* [[Magikarp Power]]: You wouldn't believe it based on the first hour or three of gameplay, but archery becomes ''very'' powerful in the mid and late game. Part of the problem is the first bow is absurdly weak.
* [[Marathon Level]]: Hell's Gate is this in the first version of the game because there is no retreating from it. The Hanging Gardens (Eden) is this in both versions of the game.
* [[Necromantic]]: Nybeth Obdilord from Tactics Ogre, complete with a [[Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter|priestly daughter]] who wants him dead.
** Made even more so in the PSP remake. {{spoiler|It turns out that his "daughter" is actually his wife, revived in his daughter's body with his daughter's memories.}}
* [[Mind Rape]]: The Knights of Lodis' preferred tactic for dealing with captives, combined with [[Cold-Blooded Torture]]. {{spoiler|Lanselot}}, one of the major characters in the series, is reduced to a vegetable after they are done with him—for no other purpose than they thought it would be fun to torture a holy knight. Other victims include Catiua (mind screwed until she turns on the party) and Hobyrim (eyes cut out).)
* [[Morton's Fork]]: {{spoiler|Denam ''really'' can't win if he becomes ruler of Valeria. Chaos frame too low? Someone assassinates him. Chaos frame high? Then Lodis invades and takes over Valeria.}}
* [[Necromantic]]: Nybeth Obdilord from Tactics Ogre, complete with a [[Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter|priestly daughter]] who wants him dead.
** Made even more so in the PSP remake. {{spoiler|It turns out that his "daughter" is actually his wife, revived in his daughter's body with his daughter's memories.}}
* [[Never Trust a Trailer]]: The animated trailer of the PSP remake focuses more on Lanselot Hamilton and his knights than anyone else. Denam doesn't physically appear until almost a minute in, and he's the only the focus of the video for roughly fifteen seconds. It also showcases a big battle on an expansive field between the good guys (featuring Lans Hamilton) and some mounted force led by Lanselot Tartaros; this is a battle that has no analogue (or anything particularly close!) in the game.
* [[New Game+]]: In the PSP remake. Finishing the game changes the event map (the Wheel of Fortune) into The World; using it lets you move to important points in the story to see how different choices play out. You bring your entire end-game party with you, but don't expect to steamroll the opposition, enemies level with you.
** Events change based on who is alive or dead according to the Warren Report. Even if a character is in your party, if she or he dies in the storyline that character is dead for all future story events until you go back and avert that death.
* [[Never Trust a Trailer]]: The animated trailer of the PSP remake focuses more on Lanselot Hamilton and his knights than anyone else. Denam doesn't physically appear until almost a minute in, and he's the only the focus of the video for roughly fifteen seconds. It also showcases a big battle on an expansive field between the good guys (featuring Lans Hamilton) and some mounted force led by Lanselot Tartaros; this is a battle that has no analogue (or anything particularly close!) in the game.
* [[No Arc in Archery]]: You'll love that they averted this whenever you start on the top of a map, and hate them for it whenever you're at the bottom. Crossbows even get their own, mostly accurate arcs—straight forward.
* [[Nominal Importance]]: Played with; antagonists who appear for only one battle often have detailed Warren Report entries (even if they don't have unique character portraits). Also, several characters of central importance in one path might go unmentioned in other routes.
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* [[Protagonist-Centered Morality]]: Heavily, '''heavily''' subverted, especially in chapters 2+. {{spoiler|Especially on the Law side, where the protagonist decides [[Utopia Justifies the Means]] and slaughters thousands of his own countrymen under a [[False-Flag Operation]].}}
* [[Rage Against the Heavens]]: Dorgalua
* [[Real Life Writes the Plot]] / [[Does This Remind You of Anything?]]: Matsuno allegedly based some events of this game off of real life events - namely the Ethnic Cleansing around the Yugoslavian regions.
* [[Rival Turned Evil]]: {{spoiler|Vyce}}, if you pick the chaos route; {{spoiler|but he still turns against you no matter which choice you make.}}
* [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge]]: Arycelle in Tactics Ogre. Toned down in Chaos route, taken to quite the extreme to death in Law route.
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** In the PSP Remake, he spends most of the fight running away while his soldiers (almost all tanky types designed to make it hard for you to get to him) do all the work. His dialogue is all about trying to convince you that [[We Can Rule Together|You can Rule Together]].
** Martym. ''LOOK'' at him.
* [[Squishy Wizard]]: Wizard units deal excessive amounts of damage, but tend to die easily.
* [[Spiritual Successor]]: ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'' and its spinoffs (Advance). Square Enix was so impressed with the original ''Tactics Ogre'' that they bought out Quest and had them make Final Fantasy Tactics, a slightly dumbed down version of Tactics Ogre with a Final Fantasy theme.<ref>And even then; [[Final Fantasy Tactics]] includes a much more in-depth skill system than Tactics Ogre does</ref> However, it's still quite good - many things they did for the [[Final Fantasy Tactics]] and [[Final Fantasy Tactics Advance]] made it into the remake of Tactics Ogre.
* [[Squishy Wizard]]: Wizard units deal excessive amounts of damage, but tend to die easily.
* [[Standard Status Effects]]: And the enemy AI seems to favor trying to inflict these ailments more than casting damage spells.
* [[Sword and Gun]]: A possible way to equip your characters. Can be [[Awesome Yet Impractical]] due to weight issues with the combination.
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