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== [[Live Action TV]] ==
* Klingons and the Jem'Hadar from ''[[Star Trek]]''. The first lot are (of course) your Viking <small>[[Recycled in Space|IN SPACE]]</small>, and the other lot were genetically engineered and conditioned from birth to be violent and drug addicts.
** The Jem'Hadar aren't really a good example. They don't seek to die in battle, they already consider themselves dead in the service of their [[Physical God]]s, the Founders, (there is NO''no OTHERother DEATHdeath'' for a Jem'Hadar). They know the Founders consider them to be disposable soldiers and regard themselves as such as well. The only reason they even try to survive a battle is so that the Founders will have the benefit of veteran soldiers (living as long as 14 years is enough to earn "Honored Elder" status for a Jem'Haddar). Their [[Battle Cry]] actually seems to be an inverse of the Klingons' own: Where the Klingons say "Today '''is''' a good day to die!", the Jem'hadar say "Victory is ''Life''!" They want to win the battle so they can ''live to serve their gods some more''.
* The "Kamikaze Scotsmen" sketch from ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]''.
* The (admittedly heterogeneous) hunter subculture in ''[[Supernatural]]'' seems to have elements of this—it's rarely ''good'' that people die in the line of duty, but winding up in a sanitarium like Travis is apparently worse, providing the '"sad'" of Dean's "it always ends bloody or sad." This also means that the better class of hunters are outrageously willing to sacrifice their lives, and contributes heavily to the show's high mortality rate.
** Examples being the Harvelle's self-immolation delaying tactic and Bobby's choice to, when choosing what part of himself to stab with a demon-killing knife in the one second he had control, choosing right through the gut into his spine, instead of the thigh like a sane person. He spent the rest of the season paraplegic.
** The Winchesters are apparently especially firm in this belief, as well as prone to martyrdom, but in addition to that the show has a whole subtextual line looking back to Sam's first death, which was being stabbed [[In the Back]] by a man whose life he had just spared. It was stupid and achieved nothing as such, but he died honorably in the context of living on his own terms, and compared to all the other deaths in his family it was, in retrospect, a pretty good one. No being a ghost, no being dragged or jumping into Hell, no compromise with evil or loss of self...
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