Blue and Orange Morality: Difference between revisions

*** [[Hunter: The Vigil|Hunters]] can inflict this on ''themselves'' with the optional rules for setting up a hunter's code.

*** [[Promethean: The Created|Prometheans]] round it out by having a nearly identical morality scale to humans... if they raise it that high. Being homunculi they start out with or can develop some very ''weird'' thought processes. Considering their goal is to become human, it's understandable.

** In the fanlines, [[Genius: The Transgression|Geniuses]] have Obligation, which is more along the lines of how in-tune they are with the rest of humanity. The lower it dips, or the more powerful the Genius gets, the more likely they are to drift toward Blue and Orange Morality. When that happens, they tend to start viewing people more as collections of spare parts.

* In ''[[Exalted]]'', [[The Fair Folk]] fall into this; at base, the unshaped (and many shaped) raksha simply have trouble comprehending that anyone else is a separate being that might not care about their agenda, and they don't see why humans are so afraid of the chaotic madness of the Wyld. Those who do comprehend humanity still tend to subscribe to alien (read: soul-eatingly dangerous) morality, but [[My Species Doth Protest Too Much|there are exceptions.]] ''Graceful Wicked Masques'' puts it best:

* The Elders in ''[[New York Magician]]''. They don't like people being able to see them.

{{quote|'''Michel:''' Wait, you're saying you had me kidnapped, knocked out, tied up in a basement and dropped here on this bench because you wanted me to know how it feels when I turn to you on the fucking subway and say "hi"?}}

* Mercenaries in various stories of the ''[[Union Series]]''. It's not about who commits massive war crimes or who plays knight in shining armor, it's more along the lines of being loyal to the original credit line versus switching sides for better pay.

* Most non-humans in [[Tales of MU]], most notably mermaids, demons, and dragons, who each have no problems eating humans. For example: {{spoiler|Ionia, a mermaid, killed another student because she was in water, making her prey. In retaliation Vice-Chancellor Embries, a greater Dragon, devoured her and enchanted the one witness so she couldn't tell anyone.}}

* The demons in [[The Salvation War]] have some rather jarring morality. Since they are still basically in the bronze age, demons have a very rigged and honor based form of warfare that hasn't changed in millions of years. Cannibalism is considered fine for demons, and not eating the dead is considered "wasting them." All this changes when humans arrive.

 

** It should be noted that while both of the above two examples merely provide a motive, they do ''not'' explain the outright sadism both exhibit. That seems to be a personality trait completely separate from this.

* It's a possible trait of inhabitants of the Spirit World in ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]''. Avatar Yangchen, the previous Air Nomadic Avatar, mentions to Aang that many Air Nomads have detached themselves from all worldly concerns and achieved spiritual enlightenment, but the Avatar can never do it because it's the Avatar's job to be the bridge between the physical world and the spiritual world, which requires them to be a part of the world they're protecting. It's likely the Avatar was created so a powerful spiritual being could comprehend humanity and the concerns of the physical world, thus not have blue and orange morality as a result of their uninvolvement.

 

 

* The codes of conduct held by various established organised crime - as opposed to [[Obviously Evil]] street thug gangs - and esoteric groups can often be incomprehensible to "outsiders".

* This can occur quite frequently between atheists and theists, given that the two groups have entirely different precepts that they consider to be axiomatic (i.e. evident, obvious, requiring no proof).

* A tragic example in [[WW 2]]- British, American and ANZAC troops would surrender if ordered to do so or if the situation was hopeless in order to avoid unnecessary deaths. To the Japanese surrendering was the ultimate taboo in war- this meant that surrendered Allied troops were often treated horrificly.

* Until the end of [[WW 1]] the British army still regularly used corporal punishments that would be considered barbaric today. Capital punishment for cowardice was common and during the 18th and 19th centurys a naval captain were put to death if they didn't attack enemy shipping at any and every opportunity- unless there was an extremely good reason for doing so.