Werewolf: The Apocalypse/YMMV

Everything About Fiction You Never Wanted to Know.


  • Fanon Discontinuity: Several books are considered this for one reason or another, but the revised Children of Gaia Tribebook especially.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: Granted, it is appropriate, but the Changing Breeds supplement has one such moment. A werehyena (who are at war with the werelions) stating that they should get back to what matters--"killing Simba".
  • Ho Yay: According to the writeups in the tribebooks and sourcebooks, there is quite a bit (albeit of the "don't ask don't tell" variety) among the Get of Fenris. (Also some among the Fianna, who are known for, having had a few (by Garou standards), being indiscriminate with their choice of sexual partners.)
    • Also, read the Galliard chapter of Book of Auspices. The debate between Samir the Jackal and Malcolm Night-Smile is thick with Ho Yay.
    • They still don't hold a candle to the Nuwisha, who have a high level gift called "Teasing Mate", which their Tribe book specifically says is for attracting lovers of the same gender. That's right, they have an actual Gift for getting some gay lovin'.
  • Unfortunate Implications: The Get of Fenris' tribal emblem is a stylized swastika. While their use of the symbol predates Nazi bastardization by millenia, there are several factors that don't help matters at all. Such as the Get's Scandinavian/Germanic origin, Tribal Weakness being an intolerance for a concept or type of person, their strive for purity, and bellicose demeanor. It's hard not to take it all out of context.
    • Lampshaded in the revised tribebook's history section, which says that the tribe's reputation was pretty much shot after World War II and it took some heavy duty Nazi-hunting (which included going after the Get who actually went for it) to restore it.

Some pointed to the Fenrir’s ancient tribal symbol, the glyph of wolf-descended-from-wolf, and said: These curs sided with the Nazis.

    • It was also noted that it was Those Wacky Nazis that adapted and bastardized the Fenrir philosophy - they just missed the fact that the Get never meant the superiority of any human race to another, but that of the Garou to humans in general. Oops.
    • In the original tribebook, while it begins with a comic in which American Get square off with Nazis and there are several narratorial snipes at the blatantly genocidal faction of the tribe (this faction was wiped out outright in the revision), it also has lines like:

Do not trust the [Shadow] Lords, for they are back-stabbers and moneylenders.

      • It also had the chapter titles written in German, just to drive the Nazi point home.
    • Another thing that probably doesn't help matters is that the Shadow Lords are centered in Eastern Europe.
    • On the other end of the spectrum, you have the very concept of the "Pure Lands". The idea that the pre-Colombian Americas were a pristine, Gaia loving utopia before those dirty foreigners brought the Wyrm with them would probably have been rejected as irredeemably racist if the invaders had been anyone other than white, western Europeans.
      • Luckily, revisited and Wild West books pretty much shot down the utopia part. Wyrm was present in the purelands, just that Uktena kept the bigger ones asleep.
  • Wangst: Subverted. Oh, werewolves (and others werepeople) have ample reasons for sorrow and despair, but they're certainly not supposed to spend their time Wangsting when the world burns around them. In fact, losing one's will to act and succumbing to Wangst is an actual werewolf-specific psychical disorder in this game (and a pretty serious one).