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** ''[[The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck]]'' shows how Scrooge [[Berserk Button|isn't happy]] about the rumors that his [[Number One Dime]] is [[Flanderization|a lucky charm]].
** In "The Last Lord of El Dorado", Scrooge's response to [[As You Know|a bit of exposition]] from Donald is "I know all that! What are you, a recap caption in some silly comic book?"
* ''[[Y: The Last Man]]'': When Agent 355 asks Yorick why he has "Fuck Communism" engraved on his lighter, he explains it's truly from a [[Preacher (Comic Book)|comic]]. "They can say 'fuck' in comic books?"
* ''[[FoxTrot]]'' does this occasionally, usually to make comments about his own writing/drawing process. One example is a strip that was released around the time that ''Star Wars Episode I'' was released; Jason goes to see the movie, and when he gets home, Paige asks how he liked it:
{{quote|They can say 'fuck' in comic books?}}
{{quote|'''Jason:''' Come on, Paige, what are the odds of a geek like me saying anything negative?
* There's a truly hilarious scene in ''[[Ultimate Spider-Man]]'' in which the title character lampshades many of the common trends in his life and how difficult it makes things for him. It fits the character since he just broke up with MJ due to [[It's Not You, It's My Enemies]] and recovering from {{spoiler|Gwen's death}}, but it plays very much like he's actually angry at [[Cosmic Plaything|the writer's devotion to making his life a living hell]].
'''Paige:''' I'd say something like the chances of George Lucas letting a cartoonist see the movie early so he could write about it in more than vague, noncommittal terms.
{{quote|"What else was I supposed to do? [[It's Not You, It's My Enemies|She was going to get killed because she's Spider-Man's girlfriend]] and, frankly, [[Distress Ball|she's too stupid to stay out of trouble when I tell her to.]]. Maybe I- Maybe I should talk to her about this. Maybe in a couple of months she'll figure out how to be smarter about being with me and I won't have to- no. [[Genre Savvy|NO! NO!]] [[Recycled Script|She almost got killed six times out of the last twelve big Spider-Man adventures.]] There is no way I'm putting her in danger because I don't have anything to do on Friday nights. No. [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy|No, leave her alone.]] [...] So I break up with her, which had to be done, but now I have to sit next to her for... [[Comic Book Time|what year is it?]] [[Vague Age|What am I? A sophomore? Tenth Grade?]] Well that means I only have a couple of years left to sit and feel her not look at me as I don't look at her. [...] She'll be making out with [[Jerk Jock|Flash Thompson]] and I'll be NOT making out with anyone ever again because [[Being Good Sucks|I CAN'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE I'M SPIDER-MAN AND WITH GREAT POWER MUST COME NOT MAKING OUT WITH MY GIRLFRIEND EVER AGAIN!"]]}}
'''Jason:''' ...Well, I wouldn't go THAT far.
'''Paige:''' Okay, so there's a TINY chance that you didn't like it. }}
* ''[[Y: The Last Man]]'': When Agent 355 asks Yorick why he has "Fuck Communism" engraved on his lighter, he explains it's truly from a [[Preacher (Comic Book)|comic]]. "They can say 'fuck' in comic books?"
* There's a truly hilarious scene in ''[[Ultimate Spider-Man]]'' in which the title character lampshades many of the common trends in his life and how difficult it makes things for him. It fits the character since he just broke up with MJ due to [[It's Not You, It's My Enemies]] and recovering from {{spoiler|Gwen's death}}, but it plays very much like he's actually angry at [[Cosmic Plaything|the writer's devotion to making his life a living hell]].
{{quote|"What else was I supposed to do? [[It's Not You, It's My Enemies|She was going to get killed because she's Spider-Man's girlfriend]] and, frankly, [[Distress Ball|she's too stupid to stay out of trouble when I tell her to.]] Maybe I- Maybe I should talk to her about this. Maybe in a couple of months she'll figure out how to be smarter about being with me and I won't have to- no. [[Genre Savvy|NO! NO!]] [[Recycled Script|She almost got killed six times out of the last twelve big Spider-Man adventures.]] There is no way I'm putting her in danger because I don't have anything to do on Friday nights. No. [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy|No, leave her alone.]] [...] So I break up with her, which had to be done, but now I have to sit next to her for... [[Comic Book Time|what year is it?]] [[Vague Age|What am I? A sophomore? Tenth Grade?]] Well that means I only have a couple of years left to sit and feel her not look at me as I don't look at her. [...] She'll be making out with [[Jerk Jock|Flash Thompson]] and I'll be NOT making out with anyone ever again because [[Being Good Sucks|I CAN'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE I'M SPIDER-MAN AND WITH GREAT POWER MUST COME NOT MAKING OUT WITH MY GIRLFRIEND EVER AGAIN!"]]}}
* In one ''[[Lucky Luke]]'' album, Rantanplan (after having eaten [[Extreme Omnivore|a piece of soap]]) wonders whether he's the only one making [[Speech Bubbles|bubbles]].
* Done in ''[[Quantum and Woody]]'' when Woody reads the "Dark Kitty" comic book, an [[Expy]] of [[Marvel Comics]]' [[Black Panther]] (also written by Christopher Priest at the time). Woody [[Who Writes This Crap?|badmouths the book]] [[Self-Deprecation|with criticisms that are entirely applicable]] to ''[[Quantum and Woody]]''...
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** In a similar fashion, in ''Asterix and the Soothsayer'', when the soothsayer offers to "read" the entrails of Dogmatix, Obelix retorts "No one has ever read us, and no one will!"
* A story in [[Tales from the Crypt]] called "Concerto for Violin and Werewolf" had the main character figure out the plot twist of the story because it was similar to one he had read in an American comic book called Tales from the Crypt. The story he refers to called "Midnight Mess" was an actual story that had been published a few issues before.
* InDuring the second series of ''[[She-Hulk]]'''s, secondthe series,titular shecharacter doesn't "lean" on the fourth wall, - she blatantly ignores it. In herthe third series, the second series is regarded as a [[Mutually Fictional]] account of herJenn's adventures. In the final page of issue #3, a collector mentions the [[No Fourth Wall]] nature of the comic and asks her if she can really do "stuff like that". Jenn simply says, "No. I can't", but her sly smirk as she looks towards the reader and says it makes you wonder...
 
== Fan Works ==
* Subverted in the fanmovie ''[[Metal Gear Solid Philanthropy|Metal Gear Solid: Philanthropy]]''. Pierre teases Snake by saying that he's so cool he'd "make a good video game character, no shit - [[Completely Missing the Point|a Nintendo platformer, I'd say!]]"
* The ''[[Kung Fu Panda]]'' [[Fanfic]] ''A Different Lesson'' has a brilliant send-up of this trope via a bookseller the heroes visit, where a scroll is for sale which tells the story of the movie. Thanks to [[Gossip Evolution]], willful misinterpretation, and a certain amount of [[Shout-Out|Shout Outs]] to [[Fanon]], Po is turned into a [[Fake Ultimate Hero]] who took out Tai Lung all by himself while the Furious Five did next to nothing (the fight at the bridge becomes a "footnote"); Viper [[Flanderization|only cares about makeup and pretty clothes]], [[Mandatory Line|Monkey is mute]], while Shifu's [[Cynical Mentor]] and [[Jerkass]] tendencies are [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]]; the filmmakers' ploy with making Tai Lung ''appear'' to be a mindless beast before [[The Reveal]] of Ian McShane's voice is also referenced by making the snow leopard a drooling savage with [[Hulk Speak]], and...[[Viewer Gender Confusion|Tigress is a man]].
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* On the song "[https://soundcloud.com/fatpossum/004-just-lay-still Just Lay Still]", John Congleton sings "...an unrelenting bass drum beat; a stubbornly persistent backbeat" while accompanied by a prominent bass drum beat that spans the entire song.
 
== [[Newspaper Comics]] ==
* ''[[FoxTrot]]'' is all over this trope, usually to make comments about his own writing/drawing process.
* ''[[FoxTrot]]'' is all over this trope. As a sterling example, the last set of dailies is Roger and Andy talking about how, after 19 years, a "major cartoonist" is moving his strip to be [[Sunday Strip]]-only. They even suggest ways in which said cartoonist could go out and thank his fans. Andy even gets in a good [[Lampshade Hanging]] in response to one of Roger's suggestions: "And break the fourth wall? Not likely."
* ''[[FoxTrot]]'' does this occasionally, usually to make comments about his own writing/drawing process.* One example is a strip that was released around the time that ''Star Wars Episode I'' was released; Jason goes to see the movie, and when he gets home, Paige asks how he liked it:
** Not even the move to [[Sunday Strip]]-only stopped these from coming. The strip for July 18, 2010 depicted Jason trying to decide which costume to wear for Comic-Con; showing him dressed up as [[Pokémon (anime)|Pikachu]], [[The Lord of the Rings|Gandalf]], [[Batman]], [[Star Wars|Chewbacca]], [[Super Mario Brothers|Mario]], and a generic [[Tron]] character. When Peter suggests he goes as a [[Newspaper Comic]] character, Jason complains that he doesn't have a costume for that.
{{quote|'''Jason:''' Come on, Paige, what are the odds of a geek like me saying anything negative?
* ''[[Candorville]]'' takes a darker-than-usual approach to this, as shown on the quotes page.
'''Paige:''' I'd say something like the chances of George Lucas letting a cartoonist see the movie early so he could write about it in more than vague, noncommittal terms.
* ''[[Sally Forth (syndicated strip)|Sally Forth]]'' had Ted declare that they shouldn't do a "middle-aged couple gets overwhelmed by social media plot." When asked why he said "plot," Ted answered, "Sometimes I like to imagine my life as a series of week-long story arcs, and I want each one to be gold."
'''Jason:''' ...Well, I wouldn't go THAT far.
'''Paige:''' Okay, so there's a TINY chance that you didn't like it. }}
:* ''[[FoxTrot]]'' is all over this trope. As a sterling example, the last set of dailies is Roger and Andy talking about how, after 19 years, a "major cartoonist" is moving his strip to be [[Sunday Strip]]-only. They even suggest ways in which said cartoonist could go out and thank his fans. Andy even gets in a good [[Lampshade Hanging]] in response to one of Roger's suggestions: "And break the fourth wall? Not likely."
** Not even the move to [[Sunday Strip]]-only stopped these from coming. The strip for July 18, 2010 depicted Jason trying to decide which costume to wear for Comic-Con; showing him dressed up as: [[Pokémon (anime)|Pikachu]], [[The Lord of the Rings|Gandalf]], [[Batman]], [[Star Wars|Chewbacca]], [[Super Mario Brothers|Mario]], and a generic [[Tron]] character. When Peter suggests he goes as a [[Newspaper Comic]] character, Jason complains that he doesn't have a costume for that.
* ''[[Candorville]]'' takes a darker-than-usual approach to this, as shown on the quotes page.{{context|We should also show it here.}}
* ''[[Sally Forth (syndicated strip)|Sally Forth]]'' had Ted declare that they shouldn't do a "middle-aged couple gets overwhelmed by social media plot.". When asked why he said "plot,", Ted answered, "Sometimes I like to imagine my life as a series of week-long story arcs, and I want each one to be gold."
 
== Professional Wrestling ==
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