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== [[Film]] ==
* Evil Bill and Evil Ted from ''[[Bill and Ted (film)|Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey]]''. They try to run down cats while steering their time-traveling phone booth, [[For the Evulz|just because]]. Of course, they ''are'' [[Evil Knockoff|evil duplicates]] of the [[Stupid Good]] heroes, so it's no wonder.
* The [[Mega Corp|Umbrella Corporation]] in the ''[[Resident Evil (film)|Resident Evil]]'' film series seem to live and breathe Stupid Evil, not unlike the games they're based on. Their actions are geared entirely towards nothing more than propagating the existence of a deadly, uncontrollable virus that has no discernible practical applications.
* A big problem in ''[[Johnny Mnemonic]]''.
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* Sebastian Shaw, the mutant villain of ''[[X-Men: First Class]]'', plans to purposely start a nuclear war between the United States and Russia, resulting in humans killing themselves so mutants can rule the world. Yeah, plans that start with "start [[World War III]] on purpose" never end well. First off, despite being labeled ''homo superior'', most mutants aren't much tougher than humans, meaning he'd probably kill as many mutants as he would humans. Even if they ''did'' outnumber humans in the end, what would be the point? All they'd have to "rule" over would be a nuclear-ravaged wasteland.
* [[Marvel Cinematic Universe]] examples:
** Ego the Living Planet from ''[[Guardians of the Galaxy (film)|Guardians of the Galaxy, vol. 2]]''. His goal was to destroy all mortal life in the universe in order to become the dominant species. Yeah, no-one's really certain what he'd do after that. Not only is this a stupid plan, it makes very little sense, as: he previously claimed to be lonely, the reason he fell in love with a mortal woman.
** Thanos from ''[[Avengers: Infinity War]]'' and ''[[Avengers: Endgame]]''. For most of his career, the Mad Titan (who truly deserves that title, no matter how sick he gets of hearing it) considered himself a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]] and [[Necessary Evil]] who claimed the only true way to save mortals from doing themselves in was to reduce populations of inhabited worlds. Gaining the Infinity Gauntlet gave him god-like power, able to complete his goal with a snap of his finger, but also made him the most hated and reviled man in the cosmos, as survivors had to watch family and loved ones turn to dust. He never considered that, maybe he could abandon his original plans and instead use this omnipotent power to, say, construct more livable planets and heal existing ones, while providing them with infinite supplies of food and drinkable water. He'd have been viewed as a heroic savior instead of the horrific villain he became. [[Word of God]] has indeed admitted that Thanos is [[Hypocrite|not as well-intentioned as he claims]], and is desperately trying to prove that his previous plan could work to the point where it blinded him to all better options. {{spoiler|This is proven in the second movie, when he stops pretending to care for anyone but himself and attempts to destroy the universe so he can remake it into one where people will be forced to be grateful to him.}}
* The schemes of some [[James Bond]] villains can be pretty dumb sometimes, and not [[Bond Villain Stupidity|just for the obvious reason]]:
** Elliot Carver, the [[Big Bad]] of ''[[Tomorrow Never Dies]]''. A media mogul who is the embodiment of [[New Media Are Evil]] he seeks to provoke a war between the United States and China to boost sales and ratings of his news divisions. (Again, the old "start [[World War III]] on purpose scheme" that never ends well.) This guy can actually blackmail the President, something he does as a [[Character Establishing Moment]]; if he has ''that'' much influence, maybe he could fulfill his goal by manipulating something with, you know, much less chance of extensive civilian casualties and global economic crisis? Not only does this plan get 007 after him, but China's equivalent, who eventually sides with Bond.
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** It's justified, although it tends to depend on the movie. In all movies, granting somebody's wish effectively allows him to take their soul when they die (and the interpretations of these wishes usually end up with the person making the wish dead); in the third movie, it's mentioned that he needs 1000 souls before he can achieve his goal, although this detail wasn't present in the first two movies.
* [[Helena Bonham Carter]]'s version of Bellatrix Lestrange in the ''[[Harry Potter]]'' movies borderlines on this. She's portrayed as an insane character who delights in petty acts of vandalism like shattering windows and setting houses on fire. In the books, she's described as much more serious - she's considered insane only because of the level of her devotion to Lord Voldemort.
* ''[[Super Mario Bros. (film)|Super Mario Bros.]]''; - man, where to begin here?
** King Koopah's evil plan is to merge ''his'' world with ''ours'' so he could conquer it. Assuming this didn't cause ''two'' [[Earthshattering Kaboom]]s, ''his'' world has only one settlement, Dinohattan, meaning he'd be facing off against multiple armies with his limited forces. This includes the police of Dinohattan, who are overworked, understaffed, and speakingincompetent; ofKoopa's enforcers, the woefully stupid Goombahs which were ''purposely'' made so via devolution; and his cousins Iggy and Spike, whom he trust to get the [[MacGuffin]] he needs ''after'' the two morons kidnap the wrong girl ''five times'' before managing to grab Daisy...
** Also, Koopa is rather careless for a totalitarian ruler, Koopa is rather careless, seeing as ''every'' citizen is armed, and weapons are lying around everywhere, just waiting to be picked up. Half of the movie is one big case of [[Boss Arena Idiocy]], giving the heroes easy access to bombs, high-tech guns, and rocket shoes. ([[Rule of Cool|Which, in all fairness, are kinda cool.)]]
** Koopa raises the [[Surrounded by Idiots]] Trope to an art form. The police of Dinohattan are overworked, understaffed, and incompetent, Koopa's enforcers are the woefully stupid Goombahs, which were purposely made stupid via devolution, and he trusts Iggy and Spike to get the [[MacGuffin]] he needs. These two morons kidnap the wrong girl ''five times'' before managing to grab Daisy.
** Also, for a totalitarian ruler, Koopa is rather careless, seeing as ''every'' citizen is armed, and weapons are lying around everywhere, just waiting to be picked up. Half of the movie is one big case of [[Boss Arena Idiocy]], giving the heroes easy access to bombs, high-tech guns, and rocket shoes. (Which, in all fairness, are kinda cool.)
* The Empire in ''[[Star Wars]]''. Seriously, the oft-copied and oft-mocked thermal exhaust port that renders their "invulnerable" battle station completely vulnerable to a single proton torpedo wasn't something a smart organization would overlook. Some fans point out that the intent of ''[[Rogue One]]'' was to explain this, but in truth, it only made the Empire look stupider. [[The Mole|Galen Erso]] might as well have [[Most Definitely Not a Villain|had "Rebel saboteur" printed on his forehead]], and once he was exposed as one, a smart dictator would have demanded ''every'' project he had been involved in checked with a fine-toothed comb. But again, the Empire is stupid.
** The time lapse between Erso's being exposed as the traitor and the destruction of the Death Star is ''maybe'' 48 hours (remember that the ending scene of ''Rogue One'' is immediately before the start of ANH), ''and'' the Scarif facility holding the reactor plans has been destroyed and Erso's death makes the original designer of the reactor unavailable, so faulting the Empire for not re-examining all of Erso's work after his death is a bit unfair. They have no time to complete such an examination and arguably don't have a clean copy of the schematics to examine with.
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** But he does not. He finally decides to get a look inside the box, and upon realizing it's empty, returns to the now-empty luxury ship in a panicked attempt to stop the countdown. That’s right, this multi-billionaire [[Arms Dealer]] did not have the sense to include a remote kill-command on the bomb. He makes it with ten seconds to spare, but unfortunately for him, the Mangalores placed another bomb, and they ''did'' have the sense to include a remote detonation mechanism on it.
*** Which brings us to that dubious achievement that no other science fiction villain had ever (or since) accomplished: he is done in completely by his own stupidity, ''never once'' interacting with the hero in any way. In fact, the snafu with boarding the luxury liner is pretty much the only thing the good guys do that affects his plans at all.<ref>The original script did have one scene where this happens, but seeing as it would have consisted of Zorg getting the tar beaten out of him by Korben in a [[Curb Stomp Battle]], it would likely have just made him look ''stupider''.</ref>
* [[Big Bad|Serone]] from ''[[Anaconda]]''. This guy wanted to capture the eponymous reptile alive so he could sell it, using the rest of the cast as bait. Not thatThough this was likely, given how dangerous it was, but even if he ''had'' trapped it, how in world would he have ''transported'' it?
* InBelloq and [[Those Wacky Nazis]] in ''[[Raiders of the Lost Ark]]'', Belloqfit andthe [[Thosebill Wackyin Nazis]]some ways that are thisnot forunlike athe varietyactual ofNazi reasons:regime.
** Belloq also claims that he thinks the Nazis are after the Ark because any army that carried it into battle was unbeatable,. whichIn [[Criticalthe ResearchBible]], Failure|isChapter not4 trueof atthe all.]][[First TheBook Bibleof actuallySamuel]] stateshas thatthe everyIsraelites armysoundly (God'sdefeated chosen peopleafter included!) whothey carried the Ark into battle without God's specific direction to do so; the Philistines who captured the Ark were soundlystricken defeated,with usuallyplague losingand the Arkdesecration inof their god Dagon's statue within its temple well into the processnext couple of chapters, after which it was eventually returned.
** First, Belloq lookingalso attempts to look into the Ark, in order to usebelieving it as a conduit to God. You’dHowever, thinkthe someoneBible whoalso claims to be an expert archaeologist would do some research into suchdetails a valuablepunishment artifact;for ifthat hewithin did,the he’dsame knowbook thatas [[Thethe Bible]] says,above: "But God struck down some of the inhabitants of Beth Shemesh, putting seventy of them to death because they looked into the Ark of the Lord. The people mourned because of the heavy blow the Lord had dealt them." (<ref>Samuel 6:19)</ref> Indy, haswho indeed''has'' done the research, tells Marion not to look, and thus theyboth are spared whileas Belloq and the Nazis die horribly. Of course, as Indy would attest, Belloq is more a glorified thief than an “expert archaeologist".
** Belloq also claims that he thinks the Nazis are after the Ark because any army that carried it into battle was unbeatable, which [[Critical Research Failure|is not true at all.]] The Bible actually states that every army (God's chosen people included!) who carried the Ark into battle without God's specific direction to do so were soundly defeated, usually losing the Ark in the process.
** OnOf topcourse, ofBelloq that,is whilemore Belloqa doesglorified dressthief likethan aan priest“expert archaeologist", as Indy would attest: though he ismakes obviouslya nottoken one,attempt andto dress like a priest, he''iss not even Jewish'', ''let alone'' a Kohen Levite (- [[Only the Worthy May Pass|they are the only tribeones among the priesthood permitted to serveeven carry the Ark]], and as priests).the [[OnlyBook theof WorthyNumbers]] detailed, even ''they'' would die if they touched it. d May Pass|Without any actual Kohanim present]], any attempt to open the Ark is a fool's game. On that note, as the Nazis are a genocidal regime bent on exterminating the Jewish people, any attempt to use their artifacts - much less a Biblical artifact of ''this'' nature - as a [[Weapon of Mass Destruction]] easily registers as a ludicrous idea.
** And on a related note, the Nazis are a genocidal regime bent on exterminating the Jewish people; it doesn’t take a genius to realize that them trying to using a Biblical artifact of this nature as a WMD is a ludicrous idea, the [[Book of Exodus]] showing numerous examples of the fate of other civilizations who tried the same thing.
 
== [[Literature]] ==
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