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Affectionately known on [[All The Tropes]] as [[The Other Tropes Wiki]], '''[https://tvtropes.org/ TV Tropes]''' is a wiki documenting
Like any sizable work, they've collected their own fair share of [[
{{tropelist|Tropes expressed in the Wiki proper:}}
* [[Abomination Accusation Attack]]: Fast Eddie and the pre-sale administration of TVT routinely accused anyone who disagreed with the censorship regime they imposed in middle-to-late 2012 of being a pedophile or wanting to use the wiki to disseminate "pedoshit".
* [[Accentuate the Negative]]: [[Darth Wiki]].
* [[Ad Dissonance]]:
* [[And Stay Out!]]: Frequently seen in 2012, when various wiki contributors made it known they were leaving because they did not approve of the measures the wiki management [[Think of the Advertisers!|had chosen to impose]] in the wake of [[TV Tropes/The Second Google Incident|The Second Google Incident]]. Fast Eddie or other staff would routinely lock the accounts of such departing users and [[Unperson|blank their troper pages]] as "punishment" for quitting the wiki.▼
* [[And Stay Out!]]:
** Fast Eddie's abrupt and unilateral change of TV Tropes' license from Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-BY-SA) to the incompatible Attribution-Noncommercial-ShareAlike (CC-BY-NC-SA) within days of learning that the wiki content had been scraped and forked in early July 2012 can also be seen as an example of this trope. It did nothing to undo the fork or stop competing wikis from using the legally-acquired content -- it was nothing more than a "door slam" whose only purpose was to give Fast Eddie the illusion that he had any control over the situation at all.▼
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* [[Artifact Title]]: It started with TV (''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' in particular). Nowadays it encompasses all media, insofar as [[Think of the Advertisers!|their need for ad revenue allows them to]].▼
▲** Fast Eddie's abrupt and unilateral change of TV Tropes' license from Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-BY-SA) to the incompatible Attribution-Noncommercial-ShareAlike (CC-BY-NC-SA) within days of learning that the wiki content had been scraped and forked in early July 2012 can also be seen as an example of this trope.
* [[Artistic License Law]]: Fighteer's belief that casually adding a non-negotiable, unilateral (and implicitly ''retroactive'') claim to all contributors' copyrights to [https://web.archive.org/web/20140122054355/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/WelcomeToTVTropes the TVT Admninistrivia page] in 2012 was both legal and an appropriate response to contributor questions about their license status. Fortunately, the new management actually consulted a real lawyer about this in 2015 and backpedaled on it so quickly they left skid marks.▼
▲* [[Artifact Title]]:
▲* [[Artistic License Law]]:
* [[Author Appeal]]:
** It spawned from a fan-site for a [[Joss Whedon]] TV series. Tropes like [[Big Damn Heroes]] can be traced back to Whedon's work.
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** ''[[BlazBlue]]'' is pretty over-represented on their ''Pantheon'' (basically a place for them to gush about their favorite characters) for what is basically a niche mix of [[Fighting Game]] and [[Visual Novel]]. The only character from Calamity Trigger who is not a ''god'' is [[Genius Bruiser|Iron Tager]].
* [[Beige Prose]]: The [[Laconic]] pages.
* [[Big Lie]]: The
* [[Blatant Lies]]: Many users have since come to regard statements concerning [[Troper's Law (Darth Wiki)|users' ability to "disagree with the site's editorial or administrative policies"]] as this.
** Oh, that's perfectly true. You're only banned from the wiki if you ''admit'' it.
*** When your editing rights are removed, the message you get once you try to edit a page claims it's not a punishment when it's anything but one as it prevents a person from contributing even if the only reason given is them having consistently having minor mistakes that makes their stuff look "not neat", pointing this lie out will bring harsher punishment like a total site ban or more childishly in one example forcing the person to redirect to google when they try to access the site.
* [[Breaking the Fourth Wall]]/[[Leaning on the Fourth Wall]]: An editor of the site will often introduce themselves as "[[This Troper]]". This is frowned upon for examples
* [[Censorship Bureau]]:
** The P5, who were formed in the aftermath of Google revoking their ads for the second time, gained a reputation for this due to overzealousness (both perceived and otherwise) in trying to restore their status with Google Ads, and still retain this reputation well after the fact among much of the [[Broken Base]] that resulted.
** [[Played For Laughs]] with their [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/AdOfLose Ad Of Lose] [[Darth Wiki]] page, which hosts anecdotes about inappropriate or strangely-placed ads that occur with the site's advertisement server.
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* [[Dark World]]: [[Darth Wiki]].
* [[Darker and Edgier]]:
**
** Of course
* [[Deader Than Dead]]: The moderation staff have made it clear that some pages will always remain salted (i.e. cut and locked). These pages are known as the [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub Permanent Red Link Club].
* [[Death of the Author]]:
* [[Drinking Game]]: They have one, which we [[All the Tropes Wiki Drinking Game|inherited]].
* [[Everyone Has Standards]]: For all that users on the anti-TVT side of the [[Broken Base]] have complained about the site in the years following the split, practically no one mourns the loss of the Troper Tales section that didn't ''already'' have a significant [[Bile Fascination]].
* [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin]]: Some of the trope titles, and increasing every day. These are listed in the [[Index of Exact Trope Titles]].
* [[Guilt Trip]]:
* [[Hair-Trigger Temper]]: Moderator Fighteer is known for this, especially towards those who have been suspended for any reasons
* [[Hive Mind]]: A conscious goal. At one point, the Ask The Tropers page description was "Appeals to the troper hivemind".
* [[Hurricane of Puns]]:
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** The [[Sorting Algorithm of Tropes]] index qualifies, although the puns will likely [[Stealth Pun|slip under your radar]] if you don't have a computer science background.
* [[Interface Spoiler]]: Thanks to the seemingly arbitrary criteria in how character sheets are created and who deserves one, TV Tropes often spoils that a new character is not really new by not giving it a separated character sheet and giving tropes belonging to it to an old character, even if it's covered in spoilers. And given inconsistent application of rules, it's also a random roulette to know what works this rules apply too. This wiki was initially made of a copy of TV Tropes pre-July of 2012, so older material here also applies.
* [[Lampshade Hanging]]: For pages about tropes, there will a folder section for TV Tropes, lampshading how TV Tropes uses the trope explained on the page in some fashion. Very meta. Even more meta is the logo. [[Department of Redundancy Department | Which is the Lampshade.]]
* [[Lighter and Softer]]: [[Sugar Wiki]], where all the positive opinions go to.
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* [[Mind Screw]]: At least half the entries in [[Wild Mass Guessing]].
* [[Moe Anthropomorphism]]: [[Trope-tan]] -- and her [[Tropey the Wonder Dog|little dog, too]].
* [[The Moral Substitute]]: In the wake of the Second Google incident and the administrative efforts to [[Think of the Advertisers!|purge itself of revenue-threatening content]] resulted in other forks of TV Tropes arising as examples of this to the site, seeking to establish fairer rules and better treatment of users.
* [[Orwellian Editor]]:
** During Fast Eddie's tenure as admin, forum threads that criticized him or his wiki ended up nuked, meaning that anyone who tried to access it would be redirected to a blank page. Eddie wasn't the only one with nuke powers, though - the moderators themselves had the ability to nuke threads, and took full advantage of these, also resulting in [[Unperson|the bans of those who do the disagreeing]]).▼
* [[Overused Running Gag]]:
▲** During Fast Eddie's tenure as admin, forum threads that criticized him or his wiki ended up nuked, meaning that anyone who tried to access it would be redirected to a blank page. Eddie wasn't the only one with nuke powers, though - the moderators themselves had the ability to nuke threads, and took full advantage of these.
*
** Some particular [[Fetish Fuel]]-related tropes such as [[Panty Shot]], alongside relatively tamer examples such as [[Hot Mom]] and [[Hot Dad]], fell afoul of similar misuse, especially among the genuinely creepier elements of the old userbase. Both this unsavory behavior and the excessive administrative action taken in curtailing it is source of at least one [[Broken Base|major break in the userbase]], and among many other things resulted in the creation of a Fetish Fuel Wikia (that ended up deleted when [[Wikia|FANDOM]] went on a purge of its own). It's worth noting that both [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/NoLewdnessNoPrudishness TV Tropes] and All The Tropes has a [[All The Tropes:No Lewdness, No Prudishness|"No Lewdness, No Prudishness"]] - and/or deter [[A Date With Rosie Palms|excessive one-handed editing]].
▲* [[Overused Running Gag]]: [[I Am Not Making This Up]] and [[So, Yeah]] were so overused that the wiki said "enough is enough!" and purged all mention of them from the wiki, deleting and perma-locking their pages.
* [[Poe's Law]]: TV
* [[Post Modern]]: Plenty of examples. Since the site is a catalog of devices used in fiction, the whole site is this.
* [[Punny Name]]: Quite a few article titles.
* [[Rant-Inducing Slight]]: [http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-websites-that-are-clearly-f2123king-with-me/ An August 2015 article] on ''[[Cracked.com]]'' deftly skewered TVT for the more ridiculous, tone-deaf and flat-out disturbing "Real Life" examples that show up on trope pages (some of which
* [[Reasonable Authority Figure]]s: The new owners of TV Tropes, Drew and Chris, have proven themselves to be this from the start
* [[Running Gag]]: Several, most commonly "[[Tropes Will Ruin Your Life]]".
* [[Schmuck Bait]]: A lot of external links are this. Notable offenders:
** [[Ear Worm]]: Prepare to be hearing the piece of music from that link for the rest of the day.
** [[Rickroll]]: Do we really need to explain this one?{{context|Yes, we do.}}
* [[Screw the Rules, I Make Them]]: Fast Eddie's sole guiding principle during his final years as owner of the site, starting with the Second Google Incident. A good case in point: when he established the [[Censorship Bureau|P5]] he expressly reserved the right to overrule them and delete something he didn't like even if they felt it was "safe" for the site, just because he didn't like it -- while holding up the P5 as having the "final authority" over wiki content.
* [[Seen It All]]: Read the site enough and take it too seriously, and you may become this.
* [[Self-Demonstrating Article]]: A whole index of them, many of which were inherited by All The Tropes at the time of forking.
* [[Sex Is Evil]]: In the immediate aftermath of The Second Google Incident, the administrative over-correction from the excess of commentary that was outwardly sexual (and frankly crass in some cases) is largely viewed as this by some of the [[Broken Base]] - for what it's worth, this attitude has been significantly relaxed since, although [[Think of the Advertisers!|retaining Google Ads]] still means there's some level of constraint.
* [[Theme Naming]]: Their trope-naming "organizations", [[SPOON]], [[FORKS]], [[KNIVES]], and [[PLATTER]], were all named after kitchen utensils.
* [[There Is No Kill Like Overkill]]: A few years ago, TV Tropes happily handed out permabans to anyone who criticized them. Disagree with the administration of the site? Well, then enjoy getting a permanent ban and being redirected to Google every single time you try to access it.
* [[Think of the Advertisers!]]:
* [[Thrown Down a Well]]:
** The Permanent Red Link Club, used for tropes that are deleted and locked to make sure that they could never return.
** This treatment was also given to the infamous [[Troper Tales]] feature
* [[Tropes Will Ruin Your Life]]: You thought we were kidding?
* [[Visual Pun]]: Some of the images for their trope articles are this.
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{{tropelist|Tropes which apply to their Forums:}}
* [[Bread, Eggs, Milk, Squick]]
* [[Captain Obvious]]
* [[Comically Missing the Point]]: There is a substantial fraction of TV Tropes' users who participate ''only'' in the forums and judge presence on the site as a whole solely by presence there. Prolific wiki contributors who never bother with the forums can be written off as having "left the site" by these users.
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* [[Double Entendre]]
* [[Dysfunction Junction]]
* [[Freud Was Right]]
* [[GIRL]]: There is an overwhelming amount of male members with female avatars. This is inverted frequently as well, with plenty of females sporting male avatars.
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