Talk:Villain-Beating Artifact

Launched after two grammar passes.

Since Jade Shauni asked the same question on Forum:Trope Talk (for some reason, instead of asking here) six days ago...

I have a champagne bottle ready to swing. Are we launching this trope?

I would say no. Let's see... Example As Thesis with no description of what the trope is and how it's used; many grammar, punctuation, and usage errors; unnecessary potholing to create plurals. And that's just above the examples template.

I'll do a quick edit pass to clean up the most obvious flaws, but it needs a serious and detailed copyedit job before I'll call this launchable.

Okay, I've added a real description, fixed all the errors I noticed the main text, and did a quick sweep through the examples to put italics on all the work names -- Jade, is it really so hard for you to mark up work names? There are still plenty of grammar/usage/whatnot errors through out the examples that need serious fixing -- many examples are sentence fragments or simply don't make proper sense as written.

I've made a grammar pass.

I've removed chuff.

I've ensured that the tenses match in each example (no more cases of "he is so he did" or "he was so he does").

I've fixed one of the examples from Supernatural. ("forged by the blood of another dragon": the blood does the forging. "forged in the blood of another dragon": the blood is used when a blacksmith does the forging.)

I also identified the work that the Ultimate Nullifier comes from, and described what that item actually does.

However, I've also put "context?" tags on some examples. The most egregious is the Baldur's Gate 2 example, which is so poorly worded that I cannot make sense of it.

I cannot fault Jade for her(?) enthusiasm, but honestly, a bit less enthusiasm and a bit more attention what's actually coming out of the keyboard would be so much better.

I saw the notes, tried to fix my errors, typos, and such (I was even thinking how to make it sound less than its tv tropes counterpart). https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VillainBeatingArtifact

Sorry, probably typing too fast, or worst, I was copying someones' mistakes (i.e. some like the Silver Arrow thingy, I was using an old page of TVT's VDA).

Thanks. There are still a few oddities in the text; I've re-flagged them with what I hope are better descriptions of what's wrong.

Okay, I went back to fix what's wrong with the examples. Any more that I miss?

I think that's everything, thanks.

Yeah, I agree -- it's finally in suitable shape to launch. Which I'll do now.

Jade, once it's launched, you may want to go to all the works cited in the examples and add this trope to them. You can just copy the text from the examples here, with appropriate edits.

I didn't realize this was a clone of an existing TVT article. I've removed the "Original to All the Tropes" category accordingly.

Thanks and sorry. I really need to watch what I type, so it won't sound weird, like that Supernatural dragon one.

Let me know if I missed anything.

For this article, I'm thinking of that Old guy from Legend of Zelda who tells you to pick a weapon. In a "It's dangerous to go alone." Way. It needs to be polish though and how am I going?

• Since I don't watch Supernatural or Buffy, I have questions, did the series reveal special dagger's history? I figure that the earliest Villain-Beating Artifact page examples was a bit outdated. Second question, but pertaining to Buffy, did more weapons pop out?

• Note, if this needs a title change to fit the message across of what this trope, go for it. Use whatever works, even French, Japanese words, and even weeboo lingo, if it describes this trope better.