Topic on User talk:Jade Shauni

Link: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Captain_Britain

So, how am I doing? I know I have to more meat to the main article.

Not bad at all. You've gotten the basic idea how to make pages here, just needs some minor cleanup and some stuff added to flesh it out some more. A page image also wouldn't hurt.

Recommend the same for the Psylocke page too.

So, do were is the 'Butterfly of Transformation' trope? I'm trying to clean up/tweak the Psylocke page.

We don't have a page by that name -- would Butterfly of Death and Rebirth be what you're looking for?

No, I checked Tv Tropes and those are two different tropes. I was asking if the 'BoT' is under a different name (like the trope, 'Boobs and Butt Pose' is called 'Over the Shoulder Pose' here.) Guess, I didn't word it right.

We do not appear to have that trope documented. Looking at its history over at ATT, "Butterfly of Transformation" appears to have been proposed and launched just a few days after the scrape which created our fork was completed. If you would care to create your own version -- this is important, it must not be a word-for-word copy of the TVT original -- and put it in the trope workshop, I see no reason why it wouldn't get launched quickly.

So, I'll just make a page and how do I give a shout to the trope workshop? I mean place it there to be iron out?

I have a basic idea, so how's this? Link: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Butterfly_of_Transformation

Well, it's a good start, but a) it should have been started in the Trope Workshop (which involves just a bit more than putting the workshop template on the page) and b) It kinda reads like a Google Translate version of the TVT page.

I fixed the first by moving the page into the Workshop.

The second... well, yes, it literally meets the requirement of not being a word-for-word copy of the TVT page, but frankly, it's obviously the TVT page with each individual sentence rewritten -- including a "compare to" link to a page we don't have (which I deleted). It doesn't come off so much as an original treatment of the same idea as a mechanical translation. I've grabbed a copy of it to a local file, I'll work on it if I have a free moment during the day and see what I come up with.

And I've put my revised version of the article text up on the page.

Like I said, I have a basic idea. Plus, that moth trope is another one we don't have, unless it's here under a different name (I figure we'll deal with that later).

So, the next time when there's a trope that we don't have, how do I toss it into the workshop? Besides, slapping the workshop banner and placing it into the workshop category.

In the menu to the left, under "Troping Utilities", there is a "Trope Workshop" option. Click that link, which will take you to the Workshop. In the middle of the top of the page is an input box marked "Enter new trope name here" with a faded button below. Put the new trope name in that box, and click the button. This will create a new page with all the proper markup, located in the right namespace, and do everything else necessary to initialize a new trope in the workshop; all you'll need to do is put in the description and the examples.

Is there any Trope that uses the "Butterfly that symbolizes change/changes?"

Actually, I've just thrown a page image on Psylocke, and I've been doing the occasional clean-up pass as Jade adds more material. I know Jade's paid attention, as (s)he's taken the lead from some of my changes.

So, where do I find good images for Captain Britain and the Butterfly of Transformation page? I still need to find examples of the trope in action for the BoT as well, so how do I go about that.

Google Images is always a good place start. Just search on those names and see what comes up.

Hey, is this a good one? Links: https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/5/5a/Captain_Britain_and_MI-13_Vol_1_13_Textless.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100406093416 Or https://www.pinterest.com/pin/77124212345773421/

Or must I go search further.

If you can't just say "sure, I'll use that", post on the Page Images forum (which I know you've used) and ask people there.

So, when I find a good image. How do I paste it there in the page? I ran into a similar problem earlier on something different.

I was going to point you at our help page on that task, but I just realized we don't seem to have one. I'll have to rectify that ASAP.

It's a simple process. Over in the menu along the left edge of every page, there is a link reading "Upload file". (It's actually there twice, once at the top, the sixth item, and once more down under the "tools" submenu.) Click it and it will take you to a page where you can pick the file you want to upload on your computer, add a description, pick a license type, and add categories. When uploading an image, please please please provide as much info as you can about the source in the description field, including the original URL and any copyright/ownership information. Here's a good example.

If you got the image off another site, the license will be either "Fair Use", or the license used by that site. In particular, wikis often use Creative Commons licenses, and the license information is usually linked on the bottom of their pages, so you can just go look and see what they use. If you got the image off Wikipedia or from the Wikimedia Commons (like this one), there's a special license selection for that. And if you created the image, there's a special license for allowing your own work on the wiki -- here's an example of that. (What constitutes "created by you" is actually surprisingly broad, as the image at that link might suggest.)

Don't worry about the section that lists what pages link to the image, that's generated automatically by the wiki.

Okay, once you've picked your file and filled in all the blanks, hit the "upload file" button at the very bottom of the page. In a few seconds your file will up on the wiki. The top of the page will have a banner that reads "File:Name of Your Uploaded File.jpg". Highlight that and copy it.

Then go to the page where you want that image to appear and edit it. Insert a blank line where you want the image to go -- for basically any page, the first image is always at the top, and goes on the second line, under the page type markup. Type two left square brackets, and then past in the filename you just copied from the page you came from. The line will look like

[[File:Name of Your Uploaded File.jpg

If your image is small enough -- no larger than 300 or 400 pixels horizontally -- you can then finish the markup like this:

[[File:Name of Your Uploaded File.jpg|frame]]

That's a vertical bar, the word "frame" and two right square brackets. "frame" puts a border around the image and positions it flush against the right edge of the page, which is where we want page images to be.

If it's bigger than 400 pixels horizontally, you're going to want to shrink it. There are a couple ways of doing this; I generally use this markup unless there's a reason not to:

[[File:Name of Your Uploaded File.jpg|thumb|350px]]

Vertical bar, the word "thumb", another vertical bar, "350px", and two right square brackets. This means "put a thumbnail image 350 pixels wide inside a frame and make it flush against the right edge of the page".

Then save the page -- after noting in the edit reason that you've added a page image -- and you're done.

Does that help?

Thanks, I'll try that out.

So, how am I doing with the BoT page?https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Trope_Workshop:Butterfly_of_Transformation#Films

I was just looking at it last night and thinking it's good to launch.

I found that the userbox for wikicyclopes was messed up. I'm trying to fix it, how come the picture isn't showing up? All it says is "35px" (I find it a bit weird that I tried to post up images, but they don't show).Okay, I' think I got the idea on how to do it, since I manage to fix the userbox, though I'm worried that they might not show up later.

Hey, I'm almost finish with BoT, but I got stuck at the "Web Comics" part, since I don't know how to link 'em. Link: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Trope_Workshop:Butterfly_of_Transformation#Video_Games