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Your proposed page "Deeper" has been approved in Moderation...

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

... but you may want to take a look at the edits I made to it afterward. I had to do a lot to clean it up. First, you somehow got two page type templates -- {{trope}} and {{work}} -- on the page at the same time. You put all your main text inside the code and nowiki tags used to make the "put your text here" message pop, totally ignoring the instruction in that message reading "Remove this line and the markup around it when you place a description on the page." (Emphasis mine.) You had a number of redlinks for tropes -- including one trope that doesn't exist on this site. (The editor will pop up a list of suggestions in the upper right corner when you start creating a link -- if nothing is offered or things stop being offered after you've typed a few letters, that means you've made a mistake somewhere.) You had the "work needs tropes" template -- used when the trope list is empty -- at the top of a very large trope list.

Those are the big issues, but there were a few other ones -- a duplicate trope entry, your alphabetization of the trope list was essentially random, some grammar and spelling -- that all combined made for a page that was something of an unreadable mess. Please pay closer attention when you create or edit pages in the future.

Thank you.

-- Looney Toons, admin

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TrueUtopian (talkcontribs)

Thank you for your corrections.

I'm still struggling to adjust to this format. I was hoping that, once I finished with the page, I could edit again to properly adjust the tropes. I struggled with the template, and I'm genuinely sorry for that.

I promise it won't happen again.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

You're not in trouble, you're not going to get punished in any way for it -- our page How We Do Bans Around Here (which you should read on general principle) lays out exactly what we mods are allowed to ban people for, and it's not on the list. If my tone sounds irritated, it's less to do with you and more to do with me being short on both sleep and coffee, and I apologize for any concern I caused on your part. (I'm also a freelance writer and have a bit of OCD when it comes to the written word, and that doesn't help either.)

It's only if someone is highly resistant to advice on how to stop making the same mistake over and over again that we get into bannable territory, and that's more to protect the wiki than to punish the user, although I'll admit they'll look like the same thing from the user's POV.

And we know, especially for people whose only exposure to wikis is TV Tropes' custom implementation of the antique and obsolete PMWiki engine, it takes a while to get a handle on coding pages. No one gets punished for not knowing everything right away, and we Mods are going to do our best to point you at everything you need to know when you need to know it. Speaking of which...

  • Our Style Guide -- how we want pages to look and feel
  • Help:Formatting -- how MediaWiki markup works (quick summary: some of it is like TVT/PMWiki, but a lot of it isn't)

We also use MediaWiki's "template" feature to automate a lot of common features, such as page headers and footers, common banners and headers... Now that I think of it, we should probably set up a list somewhere of what they are and what they do so we can point people at them.

In any case, thanks for your patience with my grumpiness this morning, and we really do look forward to your future contributions.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Now that I think of it, we should probably set up a list somewhere of what they are and what they do so we can point people at them.

It took most of a week, but we now have this page -- All The Tropes:Our Custom Templates -- in case you're interested.

Just to let you know...

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

...I've replaced the version of File:Black-Monkey-Pro-Banana-Jam-Deeper-1-Relationship-01.png you uploaded -- which was 1900 X 2686 and something like 3.25 Mb -- with a much-smaller version. We have no need for huge, high-resolution images of work covers and posters (and in fact, using smaller, reduced-resolution copies makes for better "fair use" claims). See our page Uploading and Adding an Image to a Page for more information on what we want to see in the way of uploaded images, size-wise and everything else-wise.

-- Looney Toons, admin

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Your changes to Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game)/YMMV and Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game)/Trivia have been rejected in Moderation.

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Firstly, you deleted something on the order of 4.5 kilobytes of text from Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game)/Trivia with no explanation. This is not acceptable. Deleting incorrect information is perfectly fine, but you need to tell us how and why it's incorrect. You did not do so here.

Secondly, you deleted entries from Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game)/YMMV. Given that when you open a YMMV for editing there is a bright yellow banner saying not to do that, and that doing so will earn you at the very least a tempban, I cannot imagine how you thought that was permissible. It's not, and per the promise of the banner, you are the lucky recipient of a shiny, new one-week tempban, exclusively yours.

Just as a hint, mass deletions of things you don't like just because you don't like them is considered vandalism here. While the Moderation system was implemented to address a spammer problem we had almost three years ago, we have repeatedly found ourselves grateful that it prevents damage such as this from actually reaching the wiki.

When your tempban is up, please feel free to continue contributing to the wiki, but be aware that everything you do is subject to review by wiki staff and must meet our style and content guidelines before it is allowed through.

-- Looney Toons, admin

@Labster @Looney Toons @GethN7 @Robkelk @QuestionableSanity @Derivative @SelfCloak

TrueUtopian (talkcontribs)

Completely understandable.

Although to be frank, I was sure I put a reason in the trivia page. My reasoning was ordering the page since it was too combined (I was reordering), and to delete the examples of Old Shame since not only was it especulative, it was complaining for the sake of complaining (something that should br frowned upon).

Second, the entries I deleted on YMMV, I thought, were redundant entries (the Awesome section was just "look here"), and the Accentuate the negative trope had nothing to do there since its a misplay of the trope.

I believe the only real vandalism I did was deleting the fan nickname articles, and that's completely my fault. I did not explain my reasoning at all, but I felt it was complaining.I will avoid doing so in the future.

I shall wait a week, and hope we can work properly next week. I want to create some articles for some doujinshis.

TrueUtopian (talkcontribs)

Greetings, am I able to edit now?

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Blocks are handled automatically by the wiki software. When exactly seven days have passed from the moment we blocked you, the system will release your account for editing. According to the relevant report page, as I type this you have 8 hours and 41 minutes left.

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