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* [[Documentary of Lies]]: To quote Thomas R. Holtz, Jr., a talking head on the show:
* [[Documentary of Lies]]: To quote Thomas R. Holtz, Jr., a talking head on the show:
{{quote| "For those going to watch the show, a warning: The documentarians often take anything that any of the talking heads speculated about, and transformed these into declarative statements of fact. In some cases this is particularly egregious, because I strongly disagree with some of these statements and believe the facts are against some of these (say, about tyrannosaurid [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranial_kinesis cranial kinesis]…) and they present these as facts rather than suppositions."}}
{{quote| "For those going to watch the show, a warning: The documentarians often take anything that any of the talking heads speculated about, and transformed these into declarative statements of fact. In some cases this is particularly egregious, because I strongly disagree with some of these statements and believe the facts are against some of these (say, about tyrannosaurid [[wikipedia:Cranial kinesis|cranial kinesis]]…) and they present these as facts rather than suppositions."}}
* [[Eats Babies]]: ''[[Stock Dinosaurs Non Dinosaurs|Quetzalcoatlus]]'' and ''[[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|Deinonychus]]''.
* [[Eats Babies]]: ''[[Stock Dinosaurs Non Dinosaurs|Quetzalcoatlus]]'' and ''[[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|Deinonychus]]''.
* [[Everything's Better With Dinosaurs]]: Goes without saying.
* [[Everything's Better With Dinosaurs]]: Goes without saying.
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* [[Outrun the Fireball]]: The dinosaurs attempt this. Emphasis on "attempt".
* [[Outrun the Fireball]]: The dinosaurs attempt this. Emphasis on "attempt".
* [[Prehistoric Monster]]: Pretty much averted in the original miniseries, but played straight in ''The Last Day'', when food sources became scarce.
* [[Prehistoric Monster]]: Pretty much averted in the original miniseries, but played straight in ''The Last Day'', when food sources became scarce.
* [[Ptero Soarer]]: A scaly, UV-seeing ''[[Stock Dinosaurs Non Dinosaurs|Quetzalcoatlus]]''.
* [[Ptero-Soarer]]: A scaly, UV-seeing ''[[Stock Dinosaurs Non Dinosaurs|Quetzalcoatlus]]''.
* [[Quote Mine]]: Poor, poor Mathew Wedel.
* [[Quote Mine]]: Poor, poor Mathew Wedel.
* [[Raptor Attack]]: The ''[[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|Deinonychus]]'' at least have feathers, but are shown killing a ''[[Useful Notes/Prehistoric Life Sauropods|Sauroposeidon]]'' with ridiculous ease.
* [[Raptor Attack]]: The ''[[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|Deinonychus]]'' at least have feathers, but are shown killing a ''[[Useful Notes/Prehistoric Life Sauropods|Sauroposeidon]]'' with ridiculous ease.
* [[Rule of Cool]]: [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|Hadrosaurs]] using a sonic weapon against [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|theropods]]? A pair of [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|small raptors]] attacking a sub-adult [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|sauropod]]? Do note, when the talking head<ref>The one who was quote-mined, at that!</ref> said "juvenile sauropod" and "pack of raptors", he meant tiny babies and a huge pack, but the animators instead used the largest animal that would still qualify as a "non-adult" specimen getting mauled by a pair of raptors.
* [[Rule of Cool]]: [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|Hadrosaurs]] using a sonic weapon against [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|theropods]]? A pair of [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|small raptors]] attacking a sub-adult [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|sauropod]]? Do note, when the talking head<ref>The one who was quote-mined, at that!</ref> said "juvenile sauropod" and "pack of raptors", he meant tiny babies and a huge pack, but the animators instead used the largest animal that would still qualify as a "non-adult" specimen getting mauled by a pair of raptors.
* [[Seldom Seen Species]]: ''Sauroposeidon'', ''Charonosaurus'' and ''Saurornithoides''.
* [[Seldom-Seen Species]]: ''Sauroposeidon'', ''Charonosaurus'' and ''Saurornithoides''.
** Don't forget ''Alamosaurus''! Yes, they reused the ''Sauroposeidon'' model, but who cares?
** Don't forget ''Alamosaurus''! Yes, they reused the ''Sauroposeidon'' model, but who cares?
* [[Shown Their Work]]: Most of the talking head segments. (They ''did'' get actual paleontologists, after all.) The key word being [[Quote Mine|most]].
* [[Shown Their Work]]: Most of the talking head segments. (They ''did'' get actual paleontologists, after all.) The key word being [[Quote Mine|most]].
** Feathered [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|deinonychosaurs]]. One would be surprised as to how rare they are in media.
** Feathered [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|deinonychosaurs]]. One would be surprised as to how rare they are in media.
* [[Small Taxonomy Pools]]: You only get six dinosaurs and a [[Ptero Soarer]]. The special throws in three more dinos.
* [[Small Taxonomy Pools]]: You only get six dinosaurs and a [[Ptero-Soarer]]. The special throws in three more dinos.
* [[Somewhere a Palaeontologist Is Crying]]: More like palaeontologists are up in arms everywhere.
* [[Somewhere a Palaeontologist Is Crying]]: More like palaeontologists are up in arms everywhere.
** To clarify that quote-mining part: the expert was trying to clear up the misconception that large dinosaurs had two brains (one in their head, one in their hip-region). The editors made it sound like he was confirming the notion.
** To clarify that quote-mining part: the expert was trying to clear up the misconception that large dinosaurs had two brains (one in their head, one in their hip-region). The editors made it sound like he was confirming the notion.
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** Their [[Meaningful Name|duck-billed]] [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|dinosaurs]] have fleshy lips.
** Their [[Meaningful Name|duck-billed]] [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|dinosaurs]] have fleshy lips.
** While the [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|raptors]] were nice and feathered, they still weren't quite feathered ''enough''.
** While the [[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|raptors]] were nice and feathered, they still weren't quite feathered ''enough''.
** Recycling of animation models meant that the lean troodontid ''[[Useful Notes/Prehistoric Life Birdlike Theropods|Saurornithoides]]'' looked the same as the relatively robust dromaeosaurid ''[[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|Deinonychus]]''.
** Recycling of animation models meant that the lean troodontid ''[[Useful Notes/Prehistoric Life - Birdlike Theropods|Saurornithoides]]'' looked the same as the relatively robust dromaeosaurid ''[[Stock Dinosaurs True Dinosaurs|Deinonychus]]''.
* [[Speculative Documentary]]: Maybe a bit too speculative.
* [[Speculative Documentary]]: Maybe a bit too speculative.
* [[Stock Dinosaurs]]: ''Tyrannosaurus'', ''Triceratops'', ''Ankylosaurus'', ''Parasaurolophus'', ''Deinonychus'' and ''Quetzalcoatlus''. Sadly, along with the sauropod ''Sauroposeidon'', [[Small Taxonomy Pools|those are the only creatures in the doc]].
* [[Stock Dinosaurs]]: ''Tyrannosaurus'', ''Triceratops'', ''Ankylosaurus'', ''Parasaurolophus'', ''Deinonychus'' and ''Quetzalcoatlus''. Sadly, along with the sauropod ''Sauroposeidon'', [[Small Taxonomy Pools|those are the only creatures in the doc]].

Revision as of 04:22, 26 January 2014

Clash of the Dinosaurs (2009) is one of Discovery Channel's many dinosaur-related documentaries. It was presented in a Miniseries format, and contained a grand total of four hour-long episodes. Each concentrated on different aspects of the dinosaur lifestyle, such as how they coped with environmental changes, how they hunted and defended themselves, and how they reproduced.

The show received notoriety even before its TV debut, thanks to the heavy advertising campaign the TV station gave it. When it finally aired, it quickly gained a bad reputation due to the several serious problems that plagued it. Besides its criminal overuse of (admittedly pretty) Stock Footage, Clash of the Dinosaurs infamously quote-mined paleontology expert Mathew Wedel who appeared on it, and presented wild theories as solid facts. Thanks to these shortcomings, the program is nowadays considered by dinosaur fanatics to be one of the worst dino-documentaries of recent times, and the offended scientist actually encouraged his fellow paleontologists to boycott the production company.

The series was followed by a special titled The Last Day of the Dinosaurs. This time, the producers told us their story of how these majestic creatures went extinct. This one had fewer problems.


A list of tropes that appear in the series:

 (in high voice) "Hi, I'm a Deinonychus!"

(in low voice) "Hi, I'm a Sauroposeidon!"

(squishing motion)

 "For those going to watch the show, a warning: The documentarians often take anything that any of the talking heads speculated about, and transformed these into declarative statements of fact. In some cases this is particularly egregious, because I strongly disagree with some of these statements and believe the facts are against some of these (say, about tyrannosaurid cranial kinesis…) and they present these as facts rather than suppositions."

 "[The program] is incredibly repetitive, to the point that I found it hard to watch for any length of time without my attention wandering. Not just the CGI clips, but the narration as well. You’ll learn in 30 seconds why females tend to be choosier about mates than males (eggs are more expensive than sperm), and spend the next 15 minutes having that slowly beaten in your brain using as much empty verbiage as possible. Ditto every other fact on the show."

  1. The one who was quote-mined, at that!