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So you've just watched the Best Episode EVER, and simply ''have'' to add it on to [[TV Tropes]]. So what do you do? Add just the trope name to the series page... but while you're logged in you might as well put in a nice little description. But what about all those ''other'' listed tropes with no descriptions? It can't hurt to [[Entry Pimp]] it a little... Then there's the tropes listed themselves, perhaps explaining the examples there would help enrich that trope as well? And before you know it, an afternoon is gone. But [[TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life|that's another trope.]]
So you've just watched the Best Episode ''ever'', and simply ''have'' to add it on to All The Tropes. So what do you do? Add just the trope name to the series page... but you need to put in a nice little description. But what about all those ''other'' listed tropes with no descriptions? It can't hurt to [[Entry Pimp]] it a little... Then there's the tropes listed themselves, perhaps explaining the examples there would help enrich that trope as well? And before you know it, an afternoon is gone. But [[Tropes Will Ruin Your Life|that's another trope.]]


This is a Wiki trope, specifically a [[TV Tropes]] Wiki trope. This is the level of explanation given to each example in a '''"this show provides examples of"''' list. It's independent of the number of tropes listed. At one extreme is just a list of tropes; at the other extreme are paragraph-long descriptions that are dripping with either spoiler tags or dialogue quotes. In between these extremes is a trope listing of who is what - a character type followed by character name, or a plot trope followed by episode name.
This is a Wiki trope, specifically a Tropes Wiki trope. This is the level of explanation given to each example in a '''"this show provides examples of"''' list. It's independent of the number of tropes listed. At one extreme is just a list of tropes; at the other extreme are paragraph-long descriptions that are dripping with either spoiler tags or dialogue quotes. In between these extremes is a trope listing of who is what - a character type followed by character name, or a plot trope followed by episode name.


It's notable that sometimes an example of a trope gets added to the trope page, sometimes to the show page, and sometimes ''both.'' Also interesting is when a show page has a mix of types - some tropes on the list get no description, some get the brief description, some get the long one.
It's notable that sometimes an example of a trope gets added to the trope page, sometimes to the show page, and sometimes ''both.'' Also interesting is when a show page has a mix of types - some tropes on the list get no description, some get the brief description, some get the long one.


Generally, [[Trope Overdosed]] series will tend towards no or light descriptions (but considering the fanbase, that's no guarantee of brevity). Perhaps sadly, little known series with small entries will themselves have little or no trope explanations. Additionally, newer released media, ''especially'' blockbuster movies or popular TV series and anime, will tend towards heavy density (as well as [[Natter]] and [[Justifying Edit|Justifying Edits]], but that's another trope altogether) while older media will be lighter due to a lower number of tropers having seen/read/played/listened to the media.
Generally, [[Trope Overdosed]] series will tend towards no or light descriptions (but considering the fanbase, that's no guarantee of brevity). Perhaps sadly, little known series with small entries will themselves have little or no trope explanations. Additionally, newer released media, ''especially'' blockbuster movies or popular TV series and anime, will tend towards heavy density (as well as [[Natter]] and [[Justifying Edit]]s, but that's another trope altogether) while older media will be lighter due to a lower number of tropers having seen/read/played/listened to the media.


The Example Explanation Density is usually a result of some of the following considerations, particular to individual tropers.
The [[Example Explanation Density]] is usually a result of some of the following considerations, particular to individual tropers.
* A short explanation of how each trope is used or just the name of the character the trope applies to, unless for whatever reason the explanation is [[Exactly What It Says On the Tin]].
* A short explanation of how each trope is used or just the name of the character the trope applies to, unless for whatever reason the explanation is [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin]].
* On the trope page, a detailed enough description that someone unfamiliar with the show can understand why the trope applies. (Note that sometimes - like for most [[Title Tropes]] and [[Naming Conventions]] - this can be extremely brief.)
* On the trope page, a detailed enough description that someone unfamiliar with the show can understand why the trope applies. (Note that sometimes - like for most [[Title Tropes]] and [[Naming Conventions]] - this can be extremely brief.)
* On the series page, enough to jog the memory of someone who is familiar with the show - generally this means just a character or episode name, or maybe a fragment of dialogue.
* On the series page, enough to jog the memory of someone who is familiar with the show - generally this means just a character or episode name, or maybe a fragment of dialogue.
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An interesting experiment for tropers who are sunned is: Charting whether dense descriptions on show pages mean less coverage on the trope page (since it's already covered) or more because of the [[Entry Pimp]] factor.
An interesting experiment for tropers who are sunned is: Charting whether dense descriptions on show pages mean less coverage on the trope page (since it's already covered) or more because of the [[Entry Pimp]] factor.


Contrast [[:Category:Pages with Examples Needing Context|Pages with Examples Needing Context]], which lists works pages that have examples with no or light descriptions to the detriment of both the example and the list.
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* ''[[Homeworld (Video Game)|Homeworld]]''. At least 60% of the trope examples have paragraph(s) long explanation. Also, bonus backchat commentary on the commentary.
== Anime and Manga Pages ==
* ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' has [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/longarticles.php by far the longest page] for any [[Works|work]] on the wiki, as due to its [[Troperiffic]] nature and the fact it's so damn fun to write examples for, most of its tropes are paragraph-long explanations - in extreme cases [[Thread Mode|threadmoded]] into separate examples. Through the efforts of a number of ''seriously'' [[TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life|dedicated]] [[Entry Pimp|Entry Pimps]], it has around the same number of examples on its page and on individual trope pages.
* ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' has a long list of tropes on its page, and many have explanations. Most are only a sentence or so, although some are a bit longer. The series [[Troperiffic|pulls out a ridiculous amount of tropes]] and [[Lampshade Hanging]]s, so this probably has to do with connecting a single trope to many others.
* ''[[Monster (manga)|Monster]]'' is 99.9% this.
* ''[[Saint Seiya]]'' has, through the countless otaku-hours of effort, [[Walls of Text]] on the series itself. All that's missing is a comfy seat and some popcorn for readers to actually "see" the show.
* ''[[Saint Seiya]]'' has, through the countless otaku-hours of effort, [[Walls of Text]] on the series itself. All that's missing is a comfy seat and some popcorn for readers to actually "see" the show.

* ''[[Animorphs (Literature)|Animorphs]]'' is getting to this point. It's kidlit, so we may be trying to justify its awesome to ourselves.
== Fan Works Pages ==
* ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' has a long list of tropes on its page, and many have explanations. Most are only a sentence or so, although some are a bit longer. The series [[Troperiffic|pulls out a ridiculous amount of tropes]] and [[Lampshade Hanging|Lampshade Hangings]], so this probably has to do with connecting a single trope to many others.
* ''[[Undocumented Features]]'', as befits ''the'' definitive [[Mega Crossover]] fanfic with a history approaching 30 years' continuous writing, has an absolutely huge list of tropes, almost all of which have at least a sentence or two of explanation. The page is almost large enough to cause [[Archive Panic]] by itself.

== Film Pages ==
* ''[[Blade Runner]]'' is well linked to other trope pages, and provides a happy medium of brief descriptions for those tropes listed in it.
* ''[[Blade Runner]]'' is well linked to other trope pages, and provides a happy medium of brief descriptions for those tropes listed in it.
* ''[[Gladiator (film)|Gladiator]]''

== Literature Pages ==
* ''[[Animorphs]]'' is getting to this point. It's kidlit, so we may be trying to justify its awesome to ourselves.

== Live-Action TV Pages ==
* ''[[Power Rangers]]'' is just beginning to get to this stage.
* ''[[Power Rangers]]'' is just beginning to get to this stage.
* ''[[Supernatural (TV series)|Supernatural]]'' has just under 50% of its tropes with multiple sentences, and there are many with multiple lines.
* ''[[Monster (Anime)|Monster]]'' is 99.9% this.
* ''[[Gladiator]]''
* ''[[Paranoia (TV series)|Paranoia]]''
* ''[[Supernatural (TV)|Supernatural]]'' has just under 50% of its tropes with multiple sentences, and there are many with multiple lines.
* ''[[Trivia/Paranoia|Paranoia]]''


== Tabletop Games Pages ==
* ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' has [[Special:LongPages|by far the longest page]] for any [[Works|work]] on the wiki, as due to its [[Troperiffic]] nature and the fact it's so damn fun to write examples for, most of its tropes are paragraph-long explanations - in extreme cases [[Thread Mode|threadmoded]] into separate examples. Through the efforts of a number of ''seriously'' [[Tropes Will Ruin Your Life|dedicated]] [[Entry Pimp]]s, it has around the same number of examples on its page and on individual trope pages.


== Video Game Pages ==
'''Lowest'''
* ''[[Homeworld]]''. At least 60% of the trope examples have paragraph(s) long explanation. Also, bonus backchat commentary on the commentary.


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Latest revision as of 13:46, 2 August 2019

So you've just watched the Best Episode ever, and simply have to add it on to All The Tropes. So what do you do? Add just the trope name to the series page... but you need to put in a nice little description. But what about all those other listed tropes with no descriptions? It can't hurt to Entry Pimp it a little... Then there's the tropes listed themselves, perhaps explaining the examples there would help enrich that trope as well? And before you know it, an afternoon is gone. But that's another trope.

This is a Wiki trope, specifically a Tropes Wiki trope. This is the level of explanation given to each example in a "this show provides examples of" list. It's independent of the number of tropes listed. At one extreme is just a list of tropes; at the other extreme are paragraph-long descriptions that are dripping with either spoiler tags or dialogue quotes. In between these extremes is a trope listing of who is what - a character type followed by character name, or a plot trope followed by episode name.

It's notable that sometimes an example of a trope gets added to the trope page, sometimes to the show page, and sometimes both. Also interesting is when a show page has a mix of types - some tropes on the list get no description, some get the brief description, some get the long one.

Generally, Trope Overdosed series will tend towards no or light descriptions (but considering the fanbase, that's no guarantee of brevity). Perhaps sadly, little known series with small entries will themselves have little or no trope explanations. Additionally, newer released media, especially blockbuster movies or popular TV series and anime, will tend towards heavy density (as well as Natter and Justifying Edits, but that's another trope altogether) while older media will be lighter due to a lower number of tropers having seen/read/played/listened to the media.

The Example Explanation Density is usually a result of some of the following considerations, particular to individual tropers.

  • A short explanation of how each trope is used or just the name of the character the trope applies to, unless for whatever reason the explanation is Exactly What It Says on the Tin.
  • On the trope page, a detailed enough description that someone unfamiliar with the show can understand why the trope applies. (Note that sometimes - like for most Title Tropes and Naming Conventions - this can be extremely brief.)
  • On the series page, enough to jog the memory of someone who is familiar with the show - generally this means just a character or episode name, or maybe a fragment of dialogue.
  • Unless the series is really Trope Overdosed, both should exist, to aid in wiki-connectivity.

An interesting experiment for tropers who are sunned is: Charting whether dense descriptions on show pages mean less coverage on the trope page (since it's already covered) or more because of the Entry Pimp factor.

Contrast Pages with Examples Needing Context, which lists works pages that have examples with no or light descriptions to the detriment of both the example and the list.

Examples of Example Explanation Density include:

Anime and Manga Pages

Fan Works Pages

  • Undocumented Features, as befits the definitive Mega Crossover fanfic with a history approaching 30 years' continuous writing, has an absolutely huge list of tropes, almost all of which have at least a sentence or two of explanation. The page is almost large enough to cause Archive Panic by itself.

Film Pages

  • Blade Runner is well linked to other trope pages, and provides a happy medium of brief descriptions for those tropes listed in it.
  • Gladiator

Literature Pages

  • Animorphs is getting to this point. It's kidlit, so we may be trying to justify its awesome to ourselves.

Live-Action TV Pages

  • Power Rangers is just beginning to get to this stage.
  • Supernatural has just under 50% of its tropes with multiple sentences, and there are many with multiple lines.
  • Paranoia

Tabletop Games Pages

Video Game Pages

  • Homeworld. At least 60% of the trope examples have paragraph(s) long explanation. Also, bonus backchat commentary on the commentary.