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"Stop Having Fun!" Guys:
- The admins and mods were largely considered to be full of these in the initial post-Second Google Incident era. And TV Tropes' founder and then-owner, Fast Eddie, has an enduring reputation as such among the userbase of All The Tropes, long after his last edit to TV Tropes was made in 2016. In particular, Fast Eddie became infamous as an example of an Orwellian Editor during his tenure; forum threads that criticized him or the wiki ended up nuked, meaning that anyone who tried to access it would be redirected to a blank page. When he established the P5 (widely seen as a Censorship Bureau) he expressly reserved the right to overrule them and delete something he didn't like even if they felt it was "safe" for the site, while holding up the P5 as having the "final authority" over wiki content.
  - Eddie wasn't the only one with nuke powers, though - the moderators themselves had the ability to nuke threads, and took full advantage of these, also resulting in the bans of those who dared disagree with them.
  - Thankfully, this tendency has long since abated with his departure, and the 2020s administration of TVT is much less severe in comparison, though some may still consider them this due to the strict standards they often enforce with regards to editing and example quality.
    - With Fighteer being forced to resign from his moderator position at the end of 2022, some of the worst parts of "the bad old days" are finally disappearing -- especially given how it came about, from a mass outcry that was solicited by the TVT staff and not censored because it was overwhelmingly negative.
- On a relatively lesser note, there also appeared to be a clique of tropers who for some years actively patrolled the Made of Win pages specifically to find things to delete.
Why Fandom Can't Have Nice Things: One major reason many new guidelines were put in place during the 2010s and early 2020s, with several originating in rampant examples of Fan Myopia. A big example was the Internet Backdraft subpages, which were all wiped due to tropers consistently misusing the definition; another big and much less arguable example was the infamous Troper Tales.

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+* [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys]]:
-* [[Paedo Hunt]]: The headlong rush to embrace censorship in 2012 was framed as a Paedo Hunt, using this trope as both a rallying cry and as a tool to discredit dissent and dissenters.  It conveniently allowed the [[Censorship Bureau|P5]] to tar any work they disliked as "pedoshit" and anyone who disagreed with their agenda as a "pedophile".  While admittedly TVT had attracted an unsavory and frankly creepy element that did need purging, the extent to which the campaign was (and continues to be) taken -- and the targets it was pointed at -- suggest it is more a political/economic tool than a kneejerk [[Think of the Children]] reaction.
+** The admins and mods were largely considered to be full of these in the initial post-Second Google Incident era. And TV Tropes' founder and then-owner, Fast Eddie, has an enduring reputation as such among the userbase of [[All The Tropes]], long after his last edit to TV Tropes was made in 2016. In particular, Fast Eddie became infamous as an example of an [[Orwellian Editor]] during his tenure; forum threads that criticized him or the wiki ended up nuked, meaning that anyone who tried to access it would be redirected to a blank page. When he established the P5 (widely seen as a [[Censorship Bureau]]) he expressly reserved the right to [[Screw the Rules, I Make Them|overrule them and delete something he didn't like even if they felt it was "safe" for the site]], while holding up the P5 as having the "final authority" over wiki content.
+*** Eddie wasn't the only one with nuke powers, though - the moderators themselves had the ability to nuke threads, and took full advantage of these, also resulting in [[Unperson|the bans of those who dared disagree with them]].
+*** Thankfully, this tendency has long since abated with his departure, and the 2020s administration of TVT is much less severe in comparison, though some may still consider them this due to the strict standards they often enforce with regards to editing and example quality.
+**** With Fighteer being forced to resign from his moderator position at the end of 2022, some of the worst parts of "the bad old days" are finally disappearing -- especially given how it came about, from a mass outcry that was solicited by the TVT staff and ''not'' censored because it was overwhelmingly negative.
+** On a relatively lesser note, there also appeared to be a clique of tropers who for some years actively patrolled the Made of Win pages specifically to find things to delete.
+* [[Why Fandom Can't Have Nice Things]]: One major reason many new guidelines were put in place during the 2010s and early 2020s, with several originating in rampant examples of [[Fan Myopia]]. A big example was the [[Internet Backdraft]] subpages, which were all wiped due to tropers consistently misusing the definition; another big [[Everyone Has Standards|and ''much less'' arguable]] example was the infamous [[Troper Tales]].
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