Topic on Talk:Struggling Broadcaster

Carlb (talkcontribs)

I'm tempted to remove category:Broadcasting in the United States as this contains multiple non-US examples. There are more of these stateside as US broadcasters tend to be licenced as local, not regional, operators but CITY-TV and Auntie Beeb???

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

I'd think that the presence of CITY-TV is a reason to add "Category:Broadcasting in Canada", not a reason to remove a category.

BBC is hardly a struggling broadcaster.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Agreed. If we eliminated every category that was too narrow from trope pages, we'd probably eliminate half the categories on the wiki.

Umbire the Phantom (talkcontribs)

Seconded, no reason why it can't fit multiple categories at once.

Carlb (talkcontribs)

As this is a trope, this is about its use in fiction, which does not always correspond to reality. Yes, the BBC is a struggling broadcaster in the one Monty Python sketch that chooses to portray her as such. The real world, where Auntie Beeb charges a bit over 150 quid/year for a licence to own a telly at all, is another matter... but in that real world, the analogue U-62 frequency in the Weird Al film doesn't exist either. It was sold to mobile phone operators in 2009.

I can see a few possible results from placing country-specific categories on this page. Oh, look, it's a trope about Broadcasting in the United States - so the Monty Python sketch has to go because it's blimy British. Oh, look, it's a trope about Broadcasting in the United States - so we'd better not add any content about the college FM station in Toronto that lost its licence for broadcasting months of Dead Air. Oh, look, it's a trope about Broadcasting in the United States - so we'd better remove every "colour telly" and replace them all with "COLOR TV" in order to replace PAL with NTSC. And on it goes. And no, I'm not suggesting creating "category:Broadcasting in Canada" and adding it here, as that's still arbitrarily limiting something which was intended to address the trope globally.

If there's a new category created? It should be Category:Broadcasting, not another country-specific category.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

If we make a category "Broadcasting by country", we could set "Broadcasting in the United States" and "Broadcasting in Canada" as subcategories of it, and "Broadcasting" as a supercategory to it. (We could also set "Broadcasting" as a supercategory to "Radio".)

That would match what ended up being created after somebody made all those "Turn of the Millennium/(medium)" and "Films of the (decade)" categories - those have "(medium) by decade" as a supercategory, which have the various "(medium)" categories as their supercategories. EDIT: As an example for how these are used, see the category cloud for Snuffy Smith.