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** Later on in the fic, during a custody hearing, Harry threatens to bring down the wrath of God on the Ministry. Specifically, Thor. In other words, he threatens government officials with bodily harm. What was that about not making people hate him?
** Later on in the fic, during a custody hearing, Harry threatens to bring down the wrath of God on the Ministry. Specifically, Thor. In other words, he threatens government officials with bodily harm. What was that about not making people hate him?
*** You mean the part where they were about to declare Tony's adoption of Harry "illegal" because Tony is a muggle and after Dumbledore had confiscated Harry's tech-suit and cut off communication with his family? Not to mention that the "Statute Of Secrecy" barring wizard and muggle relationships like adoption isn't legally recognized by most magic governments in this story, and that the American Department Of Magic clearly has no problem working with muggles.
*** You mean the part where they were about to declare Tony's adoption of Harry "illegal" because Tony is a muggle and after Dumbledore had confiscated Harry's tech-suit and cut off communication with his family? Not to mention that the "Statute Of Secrecy" barring wizard and muggle relationships like adoption isn't legally recognized by most magic governments in this story, and that the American Department Of Magic clearly has no problem working with muggles.
*** There's also that Harry, in this continuity, is an American citizen. There is a technical term for when a foreign nation attempts to take a citizen of another nation and forcibly impress them into service against their will and without permission of their nation of residence -- "act of war". Indeed, the historical War of 1812 actually did start between Great Britain and the US precisely because of this.
** Harry says the term [[Muggle]] is condescending. He suggests "Mundane", which, by definition, implies that wizards are special. In other words, it condescends. And throughout the fic, both characters and the author condescend about how Marvel is better than the Wizarding World.
** Harry says the term [[Muggle]] is condescending. He suggests "Mundane", which, by definition, implies that wizards are special. In other words, it condescends. And throughout the fic, both characters and the author condescend about how Marvel is better than the Wizarding World.
*** But the term [[Muggle]] IS condescending, even in canon. You can argue that some characters who use the term just don't know any better, like Ron, and that the term isn't ''always'' derogatory(like the [[N-Word Privileges|N-Word]] being used in [[Real Life]] for example), but [[Muggle]] is clearly thrown about to emphasize that non-wizards are inferior. I took Harry's suggestion of the term "Mundane" to just mean someone born without wizard powers. It's very common in Marvel to label people who have powers simply to emphasize that they have powers, and nothing more.
*** But the term [[Muggle]] IS condescending, even in canon. You can argue that some characters who use the term just don't know any better, like Ron, and that the term isn't ''always'' derogatory(like the [[N-Word Privileges|N-Word]] being used in [[Real Life]] for example), but [[Muggle]] is clearly thrown about to emphasize that non-wizards are inferior. I took Harry's suggestion of the term "Mundane" to just mean someone born without wizard powers. It's very common in Marvel to label people who have powers simply to emphasize that they have powers, and nothing more.

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  • Broken Aesop: Harry says Tony told him it's good not to make the other guy hate oneself, because it's bad business, and thus makes nice with Snape. After Harry overrides the limits on his armor to defeat the troll, and is harmed by it, Tony comes in, blames Dumbledore for it, and when Dumbledore tries Legilimency on him (as a first resort), threatens to rip his brain out and calls him a "coward". He further clarifies that if Dumbledore tried it on Harry, he would tear the Hogwarts to pieces. Because destroying the premier magical education facility in the British Isles is a good way to deal with one corrupt headmaster.
    • Later on in the fic, during a custody hearing, Harry threatens to bring down the wrath of God on the Ministry. Specifically, Thor. In other words, he threatens government officials with bodily harm. What was that about not making people hate him?
      • You mean the part where they were about to declare Tony's adoption of Harry "illegal" because Tony is a muggle and after Dumbledore had confiscated Harry's tech-suit and cut off communication with his family? Not to mention that the "Statute Of Secrecy" barring wizard and muggle relationships like adoption isn't legally recognized by most magic governments in this story, and that the American Department Of Magic clearly has no problem working with muggles.
      • There's also that Harry, in this continuity, is an American citizen. There is a technical term for when a foreign nation attempts to take a citizen of another nation and forcibly impress them into service against their will and without permission of their nation of residence -- "act of war". Indeed, the historical War of 1812 actually did start between Great Britain and the US precisely because of this.
    • Harry says the term Muggle is condescending. He suggests "Mundane", which, by definition, implies that wizards are special. In other words, it condescends. And throughout the fic, both characters and the author condescend about how Marvel is better than the Wizarding World.
      • But the term Muggle IS condescending, even in canon. You can argue that some characters who use the term just don't know any better, like Ron, and that the term isn't always derogatory(like the N-Word being used in Real Life for example), but Muggle is clearly thrown about to emphasize that non-wizards are inferior. I took Harry's suggestion of the term "Mundane" to just mean someone born without wizard powers. It's very common in Marvel to label people who have powers simply to emphasize that they have powers, and nothing more.
        • The word "Muggle" is a categorization. Wizards tend to use it in a condescending manner, because they are themselves condescending. It is possible to use "African-Americans" in a racist way, given certain contexts and inflictions, but that does not make the term inherently racist. At this point, Harry has been in the Wizarding World for all of a few hours, and you can't make cultural assessments of word usage from a few kids on a train.
        • Actually, in this story(however briefly), it's shown that American wizards treat non-wizard people with respect and think of them as equals, to the point that every North American country(USA, Canada, and Mexico) has abandoned the Statute Of Secrecy. To be fair though, it's also because there are characters in Marvel who WAY WAY more powerful than any HP wizard or witch. And IIRC, Harry first suggested the term "mundane" when in the Great Hall with Draco, at least several days since he made it to Hogwarts. It wasn't on the train.
  • Fan Dumb: Or Hatedom, but the Author has no love for the Potterverse and its not shy to state it in the most Anvilicious way possible.
    • And does so in their other fics. Really, their life (on the net at least) is about bashing the potter universe.
  • Fan Wank
  • "The Reason You Suck" Speech: Grab any chapter. ANY CHAPTER. If you don't found at least three by the end you are reading the wrong fic.
  • Straw Loser: Severus, Dumbledore, Fudge... pretty much the fic is a continual "You suck" to the Magical World and the Potterverse.
    • I don't think it's a "you suck" message so much as showing what happens when the Wizarding World is propped up against the Marvel Universe. I'm a huge Harry Potter fan myself, but even this troper can admit that the technology and magic in that universe( or in the DC Universe for that matter) is far more powerful than Potter Verse magic. It's not that Marvel or DC is better than Harry Potter. For instance I would say that Marvel is more powerful than the magic displayed in the Legandarium of JRR Tolkien. Tolkien's works are classics in a way that the majority of Marvel comics can never be, but that doesn't take away the fact that Marvel characters can kick the asses of most Lord of the Rings characters. That's all it is, a power disparity.
      • It's not just power disparity. A lot of people act OOC just to make the Marvel side look better. Either that, or the author sincerely thinks that Dumbledore's first response to Tony threatening to bring the school down around his ears would be Legilimency.
      • In simple terms: Marvel is always right, Potterverse is always wrong.
      • Alternate view: In order to keep British Wizarding society close to canon while MU heroes and threats are around, their insular nature and ignorance of the Muggle world is taken Up to Eleven to keep them from noticing the Marvel side of the equation until it gets in their face.