Topic on User talk:Hepzibah

Copyright Violation

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Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

@Hepzibah:

Thank you for your contributions, but unfortunately I've had to undo almost all of your recent edits and replace most of the trope descriptions on Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries with the context template because they have all been copied word-for-word from TV Tropes. This is copyright violation and is illegal.

Understand, please, that TV Tropes and All The Tropes have different Creative Commons licenses, and as a result we cannot legally use TVT content from after July 2012. You are free to recreate the deleted material completely in your own words. Before you do, though, we would recommend that you review the following pages that you may find helpful:

Finally we strongly recommend that you read How We Do Bans Around Here. This isn't a threat -- this is the wiki policy strictly controlling how and when user bans can be applied by an Admin. We want you to be aware that unlike TVT, we do not ban users on whims or because we're cranky -- and that you know what we do ban people for, and what it takes, so you can avoid future problems.

I've imposed a short, temporary block to your ability to edit to prevent you from adding more examples copied from TV Tropes to various pages until we are confident you have read this message. However, by the guidelines on the Bans page, it is, however, sadly necessary to inform you that you are now the recipient of a formal warning: if after the temporary block expires you continue to post content taken unmodified from TV Tropes, you will receive a much longer punitive temp ban.

Please reply to this message so we know we've reached you. Thanks.

-- Looney Toons, admin

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Hepzibah (talkcontribs)

I am a refugee from TV Tropes and created the Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries page there (under the user name foxley). I thought that under your rules, I could do this as they were my own edits. I also only copied over those tropes I had placed in the trope list.

If I have misunderstood the All the Tropes rules, I apologise.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

I think the initial problem here is that we didn't give you any indication that you should make an explicit copyright claim in the edit reason to prevent this kind of misunderstanding. I've brought the question up in the off-wiki forum of just how we should let editors know to do this.

Derivative (talkcontribs)

Can you prove you are foxley?

Hepzibah (talkcontribs)

What constitutes proof?

Derivative (talkcontribs)

Presuming LT/others don't have a better idea (they probably do), some kind of evidence on that account that the two are connected. Maybe just adding the word foxley, presuming others can't edit profiles on TVT (I don't use TVT so don't know).

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

That's a good question, actually. In the past when we've asked for proof in cases like this, the contributor involved silently vanished in the night and we never heard from them again. In eight years we've never actually had to take the next step in the process. However, in my eyes the very fact that a) you've given a specific TVT account name and b) you're asking how to verify your identity are pretty good evidence you are who you're claiming to be.

When you say "refugee", does that mean you no longer have an active account there? If that's the case, Derivative's idea obviously won't work. If you do still have a TVT account, though, adding some manner of "codeword" to your user profile there might be the way to go.

Regardless, please be patient. We're doing what we can on our end to verify things, and once your identity is confirmed, I'll revert my changes to the pages you edited, and rescue/approve the changes that were still in the moderation queue. You will also have my apologies.

Hepzibah (talkcontribs)

Unfortunately, I deleted my TV Tropes account just before I was perma-banned because I could see which way the wind was blowing.

I'm happy to be patient while you sort this. I only copied the Miss Fisher stuff across because I was looking for a way I could complete 10 edits quickly. If I had realised it was going to be a hassle, I would have done things differently.

Hopefully, my identity can be established, because I would like to bring some of the pages I created on TV Tropes across without having to completely re-write them.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Sorry for the delay -- the staff agrees that what is available to us -- both here and through our TVT contacts -- is sufficient to establish your bonafides. As soon I save this, I'll starting undoing my undos and moderation rejections.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

And done.

EDIT: And I've granted you autopatrolled and automoderated rights, to make bringing your content over a bit easier. Just remember to note in the edit reason that you're the rights holder and are legally allowed to copy it so we don't have any future confusion.

Hepzibah (talkcontribs)

No worries. Will do. Thanks for your consideration.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

You're welcome!