Older Than They Think

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This trope even applies in politics.
Ponder Stibbons was indeed first drawn in 1996. I, of course, used a time machine to 'get the idea' of Unseen University from Hogwarts; I don't know what Paul used in this case. Obviously he must have used something.
Terry Pratchett, on the similarities between Discworld and Harry Potter, quoted at The Annotated Pratchett File page discussing The Last Hero

Simply defined, a fan thinks a trope, plot, or line was invented by a show he or she watches, when in truth its origins lie farther back in history.

Tropes tend to be much older than they appear, even if they aren't one of The Oldest Ones in the Book, so it's increasingly likely that a viewer of a specific program won't be familiar with the original source of whatever is on display.

This can also be inverted by fans, who see a modern adaptation of some older classic they're unfamiliar with, and incorrectly assume some newly introduced trope was part of the original work. The ultimate expression of this is the Unbuilt Trope—someone did it previously, examined it, deconstructed it, zig-zagged it, all spectacularly, finished the story's run, but is now remembered mostly nostalgically, not for its trope.

See also the more extreme Fleeting Demographic Rule. Compare with classical music Covered Up, Name's the Same, Popcultural Osmosis, Seinfeld Is Unfunny, Revival by Commercialization, Sequel Displacement, and the "Weird Al" Effect. Somewhat related to Adaptation Displacement. Contrast with Newer Than They Think. Do not confuse with Older Than They Look. There will be a short quiz at the end of class.

For examples of people referencing trope in fiction, see It's Been Done.

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Memes

  • You know the "moths like lamps" memes that Know Your Meme said started in 2018? Well, moths having been attracted to flames/candles has been of interest to Sufi Islamic Poets for a long time. For example the poem Judge A Moth By The Beauty Of Its Candle was written by a 13th century poet named Mawlana Jalaluddin Mohammad Balkhi (or alternatively "Rumi"). In Sufi poetry, the moth and flame are a metaphor. The moth is a human and the flame is god. The flame is too powerful for a moth's body to survive close contact, but a moth may approach it out of love anyways. Such a moth could be likened to a pious god loving human.