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There is, however, James Bond (novel).

Stop breaking working links by turning them into redlinks to non-existent pages. I've had to clean up this error of yours several times in the last couple days. Make sure the page you're trying to link to actually exists.

Also, a suggestion: when you've got something like Inigo Montoya's famous quote from The Princess Bride that appears in all known versions of the work, don't change the link from the disambiguation page to one specific version of the work -- that implies it only appears in that version, which is not the case. Sometimes the disambiguation page is the right page to link to.

-- Looney Toons, admin

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Sorry for the errors.

Okay, you tried to claim a trope that appears in all versions of a franchise's works only appears in one version four times on You Are Number Six/Literature. According to your changes:

• Names with numbers are not used in the film version of Logan's Run (even though the text of the example says otherwise).
• There are no 00 agents in the James Bond movies.
• Edmond Dantès is only called Prisoner 34 in the original Count of Monte Cristo novel and never, ever in any other work based on it.
• Similarly, Jean Valjean of Les Misérables doesn't have a prisoner number anywhere but the original book.

These are all Blatant Lies, which you have inserted into a wiki page by mindlessly changing links like an unthinking machine. STOP DOING THIS. We appreciate that you are helping clear up the excess of disambiguation links with which we are plagued, but you can't just sweep in and change everything -- sometimes the disambiguation link is the right link to use. Pay attention to what you're doing! If the change you're about to make will result in an implicitly false or ridiculous claim (For instance, changing a reference to James Bond on the Spy Fiction page to James Bond (novel), which would be functionally equivalent to saying there are no spies in the Bond movies), don't make it. Yes, even in a case like this where the entire page is about a single medium. If your "fix" will turn a true statement into a false one, don't make it. The truth of what we say is more important than getting anal about making the links match the medium the example is listed under.

We don't have to start waving tempbans around to get you to pay attention and not make stupid and misleading edits, do we?

Meanwhile, I have reverted those four changes (although the one you made to Ayn Rand's Anthem stays, for now). And I am continuing to watch all your edits to make sure more falsehoods don't get inserted with good intentions.

-- Looney Toons, admin

@Labster @Looney Toons @GethN7 @Robkelk @QuestionableSanity @Derivative @SelfCloak

I will slow down to avoid repetition of such errors.

EDIT: But I must say, those examples were already on the literature page. I made an assumption those examples were about the book versions and therefore the links should show the novels. I thought the reason we have rules like "multiple Works need separate pages" was to make distinctions between different versions of the same story in multiple media.

Our rules for "Multiple Works Need Separate Pages" do say that the Franchise pages are intended to list the tropes that are common to multiple versions of works. We expect that there will be tropes that apply to more than one version -- when they do, the correct page to link to is the disambiguation page.

While we're on the topic, you have have been replacing Necessary Evil universally with Necessarily Evil. In most of the cases I've looked at, I think what you really want is Lesser of Two Evils instead. "Necessarily Evil" is a person who is evil (often profoundly so) because he feels he has to be to accomplish some greater end. "Lesser of Two Evils" is a value judgment, picking for an evil that is unavoidable something that does the least evil. Even then it's not always quite right, but it's closer to right than "Necessarily Evil". Plus, simply plopping "Necessarily" in where "Necessary" was makes for a grammar/usage error by itself.