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When the heart of a story is the hero's strong objective, the story usually isn't a Heroic Fantasy or Action Adventure. It's comedy, romance, Slice Of Life, voyages, Rags To Riches... Villains and antagonists that exist are hindrances that challenge the hero to rethink themselves or overcome a personal weakness.
When the heart of a story is the hero's strong objective, the story usually isn't a Heroic Fantasy or Action Adventure. It's comedy, romance, Slice Of Life, voyages, Rags To Riches... Villains and antagonists that exist are hindrances that challenge the hero to rethink themselves or overcome a personal weakness.


Contrast [[Villains Act Heroes React]].
Contrast [[Villains Act, Heroes React]].
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* ''[[The Odyssey (Literature)|The Odyssey]]'': Odysseus wants to get home. Every monster and god on the Great Sea is hindering him.
* ''[[The Odyssey (Literature)|The Odyssey]]'': Odysseus wants to get home. Every monster and god on the Great Sea is hindering him.
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* Fairy tales where the child had a goal at the beginning, such as Little Red Riding Hood, Mufaro's Beautiful Daughters, Aladdin, etc.
* Fairy tales where the child had a goal at the beginning, such as Little Red Riding Hood, Mufaro's Beautiful Daughters, Aladdin, etc.
* The protagonist of an "escape plot" gets their own ball rolling by trying to escape their personal prison.
* The protagonist of an "escape plot" gets their own ball rolling by trying to escape their personal prison.
* [[Rags to Riches]] which specifically invoke [[Self Made Man]].
* [[Rags to Riches]] which specifically invoke [[Self-Made Man]].
** ''[[The Pursuit of Happyness]]''
** ''[[The Pursuit of Happyness]]''
* Many Action Adventure and disaster films [[No Antagonist|don't really have a villain]], just obstacles to be overcome.
* Many Action Adventure and disaster films [[No Antagonist|don't really have a villain]], just obstacles to be overcome.
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** ''[[The Longest Day]]'', ''[[Homeworld (Video Game)|Homeworld]]''
** ''[[The Longest Day]]'', ''[[Homeworld (Video Game)|Homeworld]]''
* In the ''Firestar'' series, the protagonist is an industrialist who, since she was a teenage girl, has been throwing everything into a space program so that humanity can incinerate any threatening asteroids. (Or [[The Final Frontier|get out of the way.]]) Her antagonists are surprisingly sympathetic Luddites, competing business interests, and people who have a grudge against her because of all the control issues she's gotten from decades believing the fate of humanity rests on her shoulders.
* In the ''Firestar'' series, the protagonist is an industrialist who, since she was a teenage girl, has been throwing everything into a space program so that humanity can incinerate any threatening asteroids. (Or [[The Final Frontier|get out of the way.]]) Her antagonists are surprisingly sympathetic Luddites, competing business interests, and people who have a grudge against her because of all the control issues she's gotten from decades believing the fate of humanity rests on her shoulders.
* There was a [[Superman]] storyarc called ''Panic in the Sky'' which was written specifically to avert [[Villains Act Heroes React]]. Superman and a team of heroes purposefully go after a villain instead of waiting around for the bad guy to act first.
* There was a [[Superman]] storyarc called ''Panic in the Sky'' which was written specifically to avert [[Villains Act, Heroes React]]. Superman and a team of heroes purposefully go after a villain instead of waiting around for the bad guy to act first.
* ''[[Exalted]]'' gives us the Ebon Dragon, a [[Our Demons Are Different|Yozi]] who often acts as one of the principal antagonists of the setting. As he represents the cosmic principles of betrayal, villainy, and spite, it's very, ''very'' hard for him to act proactively. In fact, most of his powers rely around crushing or spiting others instead of pursuing his own direct goals, and the main reason he created [[Big Good|the Unconquered Sun]] was because that way, he could actually ''do something''.
* ''[[Exalted]]'' gives us the Ebon Dragon, a [[Our Demons Are Different|Yozi]] who often acts as one of the principal antagonists of the setting. As he represents the cosmic principles of betrayal, villainy, and spite, it's very, ''very'' hard for him to act proactively. In fact, most of his powers rely around crushing or spiting others instead of pursuing his own direct goals, and the main reason he created [[Big Good|the Unconquered Sun]] was because that way, he could actually ''do something''.
* ''[[The Heritage of Shannara]]'' has a dark take on this. Our heroes are on a quest to gain he various talismans that they will need to stop [[Big Bad|Rimmer Dall]] and his [[The Heartless|Shadowen]]. [[Manipulative Bastard|Rimmer Dall]] for his part seeks only to delay them, because if his final plan succeeds it won't matter what they do. In the individual books this is also true, with Walker Boh seeking to gain the Black Elfstone, but [[Taken for Granite|Uhl Belk]], [[Sand Worm|The Maw Grint]], and [[Psycho for Hire|Pe Ell]] hindering him, and Wren trying to get the Elves home, but [[Super Persistent Predator|The Wisteron]] and every other monster on Morrowindl delaying her.
* ''[[The Heritage of Shannara]]'' has a dark take on this. Our heroes are on a quest to gain he various talismans that they will need to stop [[Big Bad|Rimmer Dall]] and his [[The Heartless|Shadowen]]. [[Manipulative Bastard|Rimmer Dall]] for his part seeks only to delay them, because if his final plan succeeds it won't matter what they do. In the individual books this is also true, with Walker Boh seeking to gain the Black Elfstone, but [[Taken for Granite|Uhl Belk]], [[Sand Worm|The Maw Grint]], and [[Psycho for Hire|Pe Ell]] hindering him, and Wren trying to get the Elves home, but [[Super Persistent Predator|The Wisteron]] and every other monster on Morrowindl delaying her.

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When the heart of a story is the hero's strong objective, the story usually isn't a Heroic Fantasy or Action Adventure. It's comedy, romance, Slice Of Life, voyages, Rags To Riches... Villains and antagonists that exist are hindrances that challenge the hero to rethink themselves or overcome a personal weakness.

Contrast Villains Act, Heroes React.

Examples of Heroes Act, Villains Hinder include:


  • The Odyssey: Odysseus wants to get home. Every monster and god on the Great Sea is hindering him.
  • The Wonderful Wizard of Oz: Dorothy wants to get home. The Wicked Witch stalking her for her shoes is hindering her.
  • Alice in Wonderland: Alice wants to get home. The sheer craziness of the world she's in is hindering her.
  • Most Romantic and Tragic Comedies are boy and girl wants each other and their jobs, jealous rivals and social statuses are keeping them apart.
  • Most Shojo comics, being a mix of Slice of Life and romance are about the heroine finding love while becoming a model/mangaka/singer/circus clown and there are a shitload of mean students/coworkers, Alpha Bitches, Jerk Jocks, and rivals keeping her from doing it. Really, you start thinking everyone's out to get you reading these stories.
  • Fairy tales where the child had a goal at the beginning, such as Little Red Riding Hood, Mufaro's Beautiful Daughters, Aladdin, etc.
  • The protagonist of an "escape plot" gets their own ball rolling by trying to escape their personal prison.
  • Rags to Riches which specifically invoke Self-Made Man.
  • Many Action Adventure and disaster films don't really have a villain, just obstacles to be overcome.
  • War movies and Video Games in which the heroes are on the offense. The Mooks' goal is just to wait for you to come to them, and then kill you.
  • In the Firestar series, the protagonist is an industrialist who, since she was a teenage girl, has been throwing everything into a space program so that humanity can incinerate any threatening asteroids. (Or get out of the way.) Her antagonists are surprisingly sympathetic Luddites, competing business interests, and people who have a grudge against her because of all the control issues she's gotten from decades believing the fate of humanity rests on her shoulders.
  • There was a Superman storyarc called Panic in the Sky which was written specifically to avert Villains Act, Heroes React. Superman and a team of heroes purposefully go after a villain instead of waiting around for the bad guy to act first.
  • Exalted gives us the Ebon Dragon, a Yozi who often acts as one of the principal antagonists of the setting. As he represents the cosmic principles of betrayal, villainy, and spite, it's very, very hard for him to act proactively. In fact, most of his powers rely around crushing or spiting others instead of pursuing his own direct goals, and the main reason he created the Unconquered Sun was because that way, he could actually do something.
  • The Heritage of Shannara has a dark take on this. Our heroes are on a quest to gain he various talismans that they will need to stop Rimmer Dall and his Shadowen. Rimmer Dall for his part seeks only to delay them, because if his final plan succeeds it won't matter what they do. In the individual books this is also true, with Walker Boh seeking to gain the Black Elfstone, but Uhl Belk, The Maw Grint, and Pe Ell hindering him, and Wren trying to get the Elves home, but The Wisteron and every other monster on Morrowindl delaying her.