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Alternate Character Interpretation: Is Jowy a Tragic Hero who is forced to fight his best friend or a stubborn idiot who chooses to prolong an unnecessary war instead of signing a peace treaty, suggesting a political union, or any of the other myriad options available to him out of pride and refusal to deviate from his original course?
Badass Decay: Neclord in Suikoden I was That One Boss, perhaps because of limited Rune usage, and the fact that you are stuck with carrying Viktor, Cleo and Hix with him (bad news if you haven't been training Viktor and Cleo, but especially Hix, who was just a newcomer), and he boasts very powerful attacks and mass healing spells were hard to come by (you basically have to stick one character with the Water Rune). In here, he's subsequently A LOT easier thanks to better Rune options, storywise having Sierra and Kahn gang up with him, you could put at most two out of Nanami, Kahn and/or Sierra into your Convoy, Magic being more powerful (and you can leave healing to Riou mostly). The only way you could screw up is if you burnt out all of your magic in the previous fight against the Stone Golem.
Complete Monster: Luca Blight, Neclord.
- What about Gorudo?!
- And to a lesser extent, there's Darrel, Anabelle's father. What he did to Genkaku was extremely cruel, and it was all because he didn't want a war to end.
Crack Pairing: Due to Luca constantly referring anyone as pigs, fanarts usually depicted him being paired with pigs (to be ridden, to joke around with, or to butcher).
Crowning Music of Awesome: "Gothic Neclord" all the way!
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Draco in Leather Pants: Luca Blight is a thoroughly despicable human being who kills innocent people for nothing more than his own amusement. Hasn't stopped him from becoming arguably one of the most popular RPG villains of all time.
Ensemble Darkhorse: Viktor and Flik establish themselves as such herein.
Even Better Sequel: There are many fans who consider this game to be superior to the original, as well as the best in the series.
Evil Is Cool: Luca Blight pretty well cemented himself in this position given his Dying Moment of Awesome when finally killing him takes three different parties fighting him in quick succession, along with being a reasonably challenging fight while he's at it.
Game Breaker - Sheena can become one of these, and there's also Georg Prime to consider.
- Killey, for the same reasons as Sheena, except he's even more powerful.
- Recruiting the main character from the first game. The Soul Eater Rune is as awesome as ever.
- Because of how the Rune Unites work, one can place a slower character in the first party slot to make the whole party cast up to five Rune Unites in one turn! In a game where mages are pretty useless late-game, this Good Bad Bug sure can deal insane amounts of damage that it could compare to the Double-Beat/Double-Strike/Violence/Kindness combo in terms of brokenness.
Goddamned Bats: Sirens and DoReMi elves. They sure can be taken down very easily but they can inflict a wide array of nasty status effects if not taken out right away. For a video game series that usually averts this trope, these sure annoy some players.
Magnificent Bastard - Shu.
Memetic Badass - Georg Prime, but Luca Blight contests his title.
Moral Event Horizon - Luca Blight just loves pushing this to new levels.
Nightmare Fuel - Once again, Luca Blight, as well as the fate of the people of Muse (you even get to hear a man describe how his family was devoured in front of him).
Player Punch - Several; the traditional one is Nanami's sudden death.
- Pilika's life from meeting the hero to losing her voice is just the writers repeatedly socking the player in the gut.
The Scrappy - Hoi.
- Tier-Induced Scrappy: Tomo could easily be seen as this for forcing you to choose between fan-favourites Valeria and Kasumi, while not being all that useful herself.
  - So, average stats and high Earth magic affinity aren't that useful?
Tear Jerker - There are a lot of these. If you make it through the entire game without wanting to cry at least, you must be a robot. The most notable moments are also mentioned above, in Player Punch.
Too Cool to Live Genkaku, Anabelle and Elza.
The Woobie - Pilika.

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 * [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Viktor and Flik establish themselves as such herein.
 * [[Even Better Sequel]]: There are many fans who consider this game to be superior to the original, as well as the best in the series.
+* [[Evil Is Cool]]: Luca Blight pretty well cemented himself in this position given his [[Dying Moment of Awesome]] when finally killing him takes three different parties fighting him in quick succession, along with being a reasonably challenging fight while he's at it.
 * [[Game Breaker]] - Sheena can become one of these, and there's also Georg Prime to consider.
 ** Killey, for the same reasons as Sheena, except he's even more powerful.