Suikoden V/YMMV

Revision as of 21:07, 23 May 2018 by Ecclytennysmithylove (talk | contribs) (Alas, Poor Villain is NOT a YMMV trope)


  • Brother-Sister Incest: The relationship between Frey and Lymsleia really pushes the boundaries of subtext. At one point, Lymsleia is worried that Frey will win the Sacred Games and have to marry her, and later in Lunas, she asks if she can sleep with him. (To clarify, she meant she just wanted to sleep in his bed because she was scared.) In the Golden Ending, Frey even assumes the job of Commander of the Queen's Knights, the traditional position of the Queen's husband.
  • Evil Is Cool: After the Face Heel Turn Sialeeds goes from a passable yet vastly outclassed magician/long range fighter to... err, okay so she doesn't get that much of a powerup, but she definitely didn't have that much HP when she was in the party nor could use her lame Wind Rune to restrain the whole party while she flees.
  • Game Breaker: The Magic Absorb Rune, and Viki's Chain Magic skill.
    • Once you understand how to uses them in army battles, the Beavers prove to be quite lethal: This troper managed to sink 40-50% of the ships with the one beaver unit: that means that more than 6.000 trained soldiers where slaughtered by one hundred armed beavers: you don't mess with Falena's Beaver.
      • The Beavers are only a Game Breaker in navy battles, though. If you put them on land, they are absolutely useless and will be slaughtered.
      • Hence the "Once you understand how to use them in army battles". Fucking Beavers, indeed.
    • Zerase. She has a powerful rune that allows her to rain immense amounts of damage on the enemies, has enough magic to cast the more powerful spells an adequate number of times, joins automatically as part of the story, and comes pretty early too.
      • To quote a rather amusing comment from a walkthrough; "If you equip her with a Magic Absorb Rune on her right hand and a Flowing Rune on her left, the game will basically just give up and let you win."
    • Richard can block, counter or dodge almost all physical attacks in the game. Don't bring him along if the boss mainly uses magic though, as he will most likely die.
    • Georg Prime has great stats and starts out with a rune that increases his critical rate and gives him a small chance of instantly killing enemies. There's a reason the game significantly limits your ability to actually put him in your party.
    • Ernst's Beast Rune has his second skill where everyone gets an Unbalance status. It works 100% even at the Final Boss.
  • Les Yay: Cathari is heavily implied to have been in a relationship with Lucretia at one point, and Lelei is implied to currently be in a relationship with her.
  • Magnificent Bastard: The Godwins try so hard to achieve this... and so do the Barrows, though they don't quite make it.
    • And then there was Sialeeds.
  • Memetic Badass: Georg Prime, the Chuck Norris of Suikoden universe.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • Zahhak crosses it when he burns a town filled with Godwin sympathizers simply to provide a distraction to allow his army to escape.
    • Marscal Godwin crosses it when he orders Dolph to burn down Beaver Lodge.
    • Dolph crosses it when he stabs his Forgotten Childhood Friend Lyon with a poisoned knife that almost kills her.
    • Salum Barrows crosses it when it is revealed that the Lordlake Rebellion was sparked off by his building a dam near the town. When citizens staged a peaceful protest, his son panicked and ordered his garrison to attack. Salum took advantage of the chaos by slipping some of his agents into the crowd (now moving towards Sol-Falena to tell the Queen) and had them steal the Dawn Rune, framing Lordlake and Lord Rovere for the theft. This led to Queen Arshtat nuking Lordlake.
  • Player Punch: So, so many. No Suikoden game is complete without them
  • The Scrappy: Roy has the traditional Star of Scrappies, Chizoku.
  • That One Level: The Very Definitely Final Dungeon, where you have to split into three parties and constantly switch among them to advance through the dungeon. Also the Deep Twilight Forest, with a lot of twists and hidden paths, expect to get lost here easily.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Getting Roy's Heroic Sacrifice, the Crowning Moment of Awesome for the entire game, locks out the best ending, leading to the death of the girl he loves, and who he sees as he dies. "Wasted" doesn't begin to describe it; more like "machine-gunned it and left it in a ditch."
  • Viewer Gender Confusion - Many players thought that the prince was a chick when they first saw the cover. It doesn't help that his clothes look like ones that women would usually wear.