Troy/YMMV

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  • Base Breaker:
    • Paris
    • Achilles
    • Briseis
  • Crowning Moment of Awesome
    • Menelaus getting impaled.
    • (Achilles vs. Hector).
    • Achilles finally getting shot.
  • Crowning Moment of Heartwarming (Priam's speech)
  • Designated Hero: Achilles is a bit of a jerk.
    • That's because of Values Dissonance. What to us might seem like an arrogant jerkass, to the Greeks was simply a hero who took great care of his dignity - as he should.
    • A number of scholars have argued that The Iliad was actually the tragedy of Hector, not Achilles. The story is considerably more sympathetic to the Trojans than the Greeks, Achilles never meets his tragic fate (and in fact finds partial redemption at the end), and most convincing of all, the narrative ends on Hector's death and funeral.
  • Memetic Badass: Achilles. "Who would win? Achilles or ...?" (Leonidas/Maximus/Superman/Chuck Norris...) Experts have even pronounced him "Str8 gangsta", unusually for the time period. Beowulf fans debate at length: "Achilles is kinda cheating with the heel thing..." And the answer is: Achilles.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Practically every Greek solider, save Achilles, crosses it when they sack Troy in the Director's Cut.
    • If Agamemnon hadn't already crossed it, "I gave her to the men!" made him sail over it like he was launched from a cannon.
  • Tear Jerker: For all the Ham and Cheese in this movie, the look on King Priam's face when he emerges from his chambers to find his beloved Troy in flames is utterly heartbreaking.
    • Hector descending to fight Achilles. We all know how well that was going to turn out for him.
    • Hector showing his wife Andromache the escape tunnels beneath the city in case Troy is sacked and Hector dies. Made worse by the fact that some versions of the myth do not end well for Andromache.
    • Hector's face in every single scene. Man knows they're on a slippery slope to hell five minutes into the film but he can't DO anything about it (without dooming Paris) and that realization makes his entire performance just heartbreaking.
  • The Woobie: Patroclus.