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[[File:Door stuck by angusburgers.png|link=Counter-Strike|thumb|[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqB1uoDTdKM DOOR STUCK! DOOR STUCK!] PLEASE, I BEG YOU!<ref>Image source:[https://www.deviantart.com/angusburgers/art/DOOR-STUCK-761248261]</ref>]]

Here you are just having a good time with your friends on your favorite online game. Everyone in your party is pulling their weight and gaining lots of items and gold. [[What Could Possibly Go Wrong?]]...wait, [[Oh Crap|what's that sound]]? You suddenly hear a high level spell being used and before you can turn around and blink, [[Team Killer|you and your friends are dead]]. Who used the spell? [[Troll|The giggling player within your own party]] as he [[Ninja Looting|runs around looting your dropped items and runs away.]]
Here you are just having a good time with your friends on your favorite online game. Everyone in your party is pulling their weight and gaining lots of items and gold. [[What Could Possibly Go Wrong?]]...wait, [[Oh Crap|what's that sound]]? You suddenly hear a high level spell being used and before you can turn around and blink, [[Team Killer|you and your friends are dead]]. Who used the spell? [[Troll|The giggling player within your own party]] as he [[Ninja Looting|runs around looting your dropped items and runs away.]]


You just met another form of a [[Troll]] for online games, the Griefer.
You just met another form of a [[Troll]] for online games, the [[Griefer]].


The Griefer is the most known term for this type of player. The act of griefing dates as far back as the days of old arcades in your local pizzeria. Methods of griefing included but were not limited to reaching over and pressing buttons on games people were playing, turning off the game while it was in use, attack players in games where friendly-fire exists, physically distracting them (such as covering their eyes or tickling them), or tilting a pinball machine. But these early griefers were much more contained as they could not at all grief people on the other side of the world, oh no, they were limited to Arcade games. Plus, you knew who they really were, and they were within range of your [[Hurricane Kick|foot]] or your [[Talk to the Fist|hand]]. When Online gaming became the norm, Griefers [[GIFT|jumped all over it]].
The Griefer is the most known term for this type of player. The act of griefing dates as far back as the days of old arcades in your local pizzeria. Methods of griefing included but were not limited to reaching over and pressing buttons on games people were playing, turning off the game while it was in use, attacking players in games where friendly-fire exists, physically distracting them (such as covering their eyes or tickling them), or tilting a pinball machine. But these early griefers were much more contained as they couldn't grief people on the other side of the world, oh no, they were limited to Arcade games. Plus, you knew who they really were, and they were within range of your [[Hurricane Kick|foot]] or your [[Talk to the Fist|hand]]. When online gaming became the norm, Griefers [[GIFT|jumped all over it]].


Griefers are also known for ruining games of sports.
Griefers are also known for ruining games of sports.


Griefers play online for one sole purpose: to annoy and anger the other players. It doesn't matter to the Griefer if he gets killed in the game, loses the match, or gets booted/banned from the server. As long as the Griefer pisses off someone, he has already won. Griefers enjoy seeking out new and interesting ways to ruin the games for others. Griefers cannot be stopped by countering their strategies on a case by case basis, joining a different game, or even reporting them to a moderator or adminstrator, because they don't care. They also love to be away from the keyboard during [[Player Versus Player]] games
Griefers play online for one sole purpose: to annoy and anger the other players. It doesn't matter to the Griefer if he gets killed in the game, loses the match, or gets booted/banned from the server. As long as the Griefer pisses off someone, he has already won. Griefers enjoy seeking out new and interesting ways to ruin the games for others. Griefers cannot be stopped by countering their strategies on a case by case basis, joining a different game, or even reporting them to a moderator or adminstrator, because they don't care. They also love to be away from the keyboard during [[Player Versus Player]] games


Some Griefers have formed communities to improve their irritating strategies and induct new misanthropes to their circle of jerkhood. Occasionally, Griefers post their plans and "achievements" in forums where the acts are not looked upon with such favor, resulting, predictably, in [[Flame War|Flame Wars]] and Bans all around.
Some Griefers have formed communities to improve their irritating strategies and induct new misanthropes to their circle of jerkhood. Occasionally, Griefers post their plans and "achievements" in forums where the acts are not looked upon with such favor, resulting, predictably, in [[Flame War]]s and Bans all around.


Recently "vigilante" griefers have sprung up in some games, harassing other players for the sake of "justice" or "fairness". This type of player can be an extremist [[Scrub]] who, rather than complaining that a certain technique is unfair and cheap, decides that the easiest way to keep people from spamming the "cheap" technique is to attack only the players who are using the shunned spam attack.
Recently "vigilante" griefers have sprung up in some games, harassing other players for the sake of "justice" or "fairness". This type of player can be an extremist [[Scrub]] who, rather than complaining that a certain technique is unfair and cheap, decides that the easiest way to keep people from spamming the "cheap" technique is to attack only the players who are using the shunned spam attack.


There exist videos of people griefing players and sometimes getting a funny reaction...which has sadly done ''exactly'' what the griefers want...to get people ticked off and laughing at something. Because thanks to videos of griefing getting loads of positive comments on Youtube and forums internetwide...people now think they can grief to be ''funny'', when in reality, it was only funny the one or two times it was actually done in the video. After that, it's about as unfunny as [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny|Seinfeld is today.]]
There exist videos of people griefing players and sometimes getting a funny reaction...which has sadly done ''exactly'' what the griefers want...to get people ticked off and laughing at something. Because thanks to videos of griefing getting loads of positive comments on Youtube and forums internetwide...people now think they can grief to be ''funny'', when in reality, it was only funny the one or two times it was actually done in the video. After that, it's about as unfunny as [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny|Seinfeld is today.]]


Calling Griefer is a popular accusation in [[MMORPG|MMORPGs]] that allow [[Player Versus Player]] combat, particularly in [[MMORPG|MMORPGs]] that don't have separate PvP and [[Player Versus Environment]].
Calling Griefer is a popular accusation in [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPG]]s that allow [[Player Versus Player]] combat, particularly in [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPG]]s that don't have separate PvP and [[Player Versus Environment]].

Note: This page is locked to prevent it from becoming a [[Self-Demonstrating Article]]. In-media examples only.
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{{Noreallife|it's not worth the aggravation}}


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== Tabletop Games ==
== Tabletop Games ==
* ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'''s ''New Phyrexia'' expansion was [[Intended Audience Reaction|intentionally designed with Griefing in mind]], and contains many cards that are intended to make your opponent feel bad. For example, [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/23.html Shattered Angel] takes something they normally feel happy about (getting more mana) and makes them feel bad about it (by making you gain life every time they play a land); there's a similar dynamic with cards like [http://magiccards.info/mbs/en/21.html Consecrated Sphinx], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/25.html Suture Priest], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/87.html Invader Parasite], and so on.<br /><br />And while most sets have spells that kill or disable your opponent's stuff, in ''New Phyrexia'' they have added effects that rub your victory in their face, as with [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/40.html Numbing Dose], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/99.html Victorious Destruction], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/43.html Psychic Barrier], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/110.html Glissa's Scorn], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/58.html Enslave], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/41.html Phyrexian Ingester], etc.<br /><br />Or, as development team member Tom LaPille [http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/140 puts it]:
* ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'''s ''New Phyrexia'' expansion was [[Intended Audience Reaction|intentionally designed with Griefing in mind]], and contains many cards that are intended to make your opponent feel bad. For example, [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/23.html Shattered Angel] takes something they normally feel happy about (getting more mana) and makes them feel bad about it (by making you gain life every time they play a land); there's a similar dynamic with cards like [http://magiccards.info/mbs/en/21.html Consecrated Sphinx], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/25.html Suture Priest], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/87.html Invader Parasite], and so on.
:And while most sets have spells that kill or disable your opponent's stuff, in ''New Phyrexia'' they have added effects that rub your victory in their face, as with [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/40.html Numbing Dose], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/99.html Victorious Destruction], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/43.html Psychic Barrier], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/110.html Glissa's Scorn], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/58.html Enslave], [http://magiccards.info/nph/en/41.html Phyrexian Ingester], etc.
{{quote|Our vision of ''New Phyrexia''--as created by Aaron Forsythe and Ken Nagle, the two players in R&D with the strongest griefing tendencies--is one of all-upside [[Griefer|griefing]] that leaves your opponent not knowing what they're supposed to do and feeling a little bit violated. Phyrexia doesn't destroy all the creatures on the battlefield; it destroys all the creatures on the battlefield and [http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name{{=}}Life%27s%20Finale rips some out of your library to boot]. Phyrexia doesn't just exile a permanent. It [http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name{{=}}Exclusion%20Ritual disallows the opponent from casting every other copy].}}
:Or, as development team member Tom LaPille [http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/140 puts it]:

{{quote|Our vision of ''New Phyrexia''--as created by Aaron Forsythe and Ken Nagle, the two players in R&D with the strongest griefing tendencies--is one of all-upside griefing that leaves your opponent not knowing what they're supposed to do and feeling a little bit violated. Phyrexia doesn't destroy all the creatures on the battlefield; it destroys all the creatures on the battlefield and [http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name{{=}}Life%27s%20Finale rips some out of your library to boot]. Phyrexia doesn't just exile a permanent. It [http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name{{=}}Exclusion%20Ritual disallows the opponent from casting every other copy].}}


== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
* ''[[South Park]]'' has a famous ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' episode where the cast goes off in pursuit of revenge against a griefer.
* ''[[South Park]]'' has a famous ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' episode where the cast goes off in pursuit of revenge against a griefer.

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Latest revision as of 12:52, 8 October 2020

DOOR STUCK! DOOR STUCK! PLEASE, I BEG YOU![1]

Here you are just having a good time with your friends on your favorite online game. Everyone in your party is pulling their weight and gaining lots of items and gold. What Could Possibly Go Wrong?...wait, what's that sound? You suddenly hear a high level spell being used and before you can turn around and blink, you and your friends are dead. Who used the spell? The giggling player within your own party as he runs around looting your dropped items and runs away.

You just met another form of a Troll for online games, the Griefer.

The Griefer is the most known term for this type of player. The act of griefing dates as far back as the days of old arcades in your local pizzeria. Methods of griefing included but were not limited to reaching over and pressing buttons on games people were playing, turning off the game while it was in use, attacking players in games where friendly-fire exists, physically distracting them (such as covering their eyes or tickling them), or tilting a pinball machine. But these early griefers were much more contained as they couldn't grief people on the other side of the world, oh no, they were limited to Arcade games. Plus, you knew who they really were, and they were within range of your foot or your hand. When online gaming became the norm, Griefers jumped all over it.

Griefers are also known for ruining games of sports.

Griefers play online for one sole purpose: to annoy and anger the other players. It doesn't matter to the Griefer if he gets killed in the game, loses the match, or gets booted/banned from the server. As long as the Griefer pisses off someone, he has already won. Griefers enjoy seeking out new and interesting ways to ruin the games for others. Griefers cannot be stopped by countering their strategies on a case by case basis, joining a different game, or even reporting them to a moderator or adminstrator, because they don't care. They also love to be away from the keyboard during Player Versus Player games

Some Griefers have formed communities to improve their irritating strategies and induct new misanthropes to their circle of jerkhood. Occasionally, Griefers post their plans and "achievements" in forums where the acts are not looked upon with such favor, resulting, predictably, in Flame Wars and Bans all around.

Recently "vigilante" griefers have sprung up in some games, harassing other players for the sake of "justice" or "fairness". This type of player can be an extremist Scrub who, rather than complaining that a certain technique is unfair and cheap, decides that the easiest way to keep people from spamming the "cheap" technique is to attack only the players who are using the shunned spam attack.

There exist videos of people griefing players and sometimes getting a funny reaction...which has sadly done exactly what the griefers want...to get people ticked off and laughing at something. Because thanks to videos of griefing getting loads of positive comments on Youtube and forums internetwide...people now think they can grief to be funny, when in reality, it was only funny the one or two times it was actually done in the video. After that, it's about as unfunny as Seinfeld is today.

Calling Griefer is a popular accusation in MMORPGs that allow Player Versus Player combat, particularly in MMORPGs that don't have separate PvP and Player Versus Environment.

No real life examples, please; it's not worth the aggravation

Examples of Griefer include:

Tabletop Games

And while most sets have spells that kill or disable your opponent's stuff, in New Phyrexia they have added effects that rub your victory in their face, as with Numbing Dose, Victorious Destruction, Psychic Barrier, Glissa's Scorn, Enslave, Phyrexian Ingester, etc.
Or, as development team member Tom LaPille puts it:

Our vision of New Phyrexia--as created by Aaron Forsythe and Ken Nagle, the two players in R&D with the strongest griefing tendencies--is one of all-upside griefing that leaves your opponent not knowing what they're supposed to do and feeling a little bit violated. Phyrexia doesn't destroy all the creatures on the battlefield; it destroys all the creatures on the battlefield and rips some out of your library to boot. Phyrexia doesn't just exile a permanent. It disallows the opponent from casting every other copy.

Western Animation

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