Talk:SCP Foundation/Nightmare Fuel

This is part of a larger inquiry regarding Nightmare Fuel pages as a whole, placed here since this is where I intend to start off with something that requires I get a question answered first:

Are Nightmare Fuel sections meant to contain unmarked spoilers or not?

If so, then I'll try to apply that consistently to every NF page I come across - likewise, if this is not the case, I'll remove it where I see it.

The reason I ask this is because, as a long-term goal, I wanna try updating the entire SCP Foundation set of articles and subpages to at least closer match the ever-expanding source material, and I'd like the help of other interested parties in doing so - i.e. so far, Robkelk and Henery, who're the first folks I think of when it comes to editing those pages or adding SCP examples to tropes. I'm thinking of tagging a few other recently active editors to gauge that interest, too.

CC: @Labster @Looney Toons @GethN7 @Robkelk @QuestionableSanity @Derivative @SelfCloak @HeneryVII @Utini501 @GentlemensDame883 @Agiletek

If it's the SCP Foundation, I don't think Spoiler tags are needed, seeing as fans of that site expect to see nightmarish things. Although you might want to put a warning saying "Spoilers Unmarked" or something like that.

Which would be my inclination, but for two things:

1. Many an SCP requires on lack of foreknowledge, or else twists revealed through unorthodox means of reading the page.
2. Even if I were to do so, I want to be aware of any "blanket" policies, "soft rules" or what have you regarding that type of subpage before I proceed.

My opinion is that any twist on an SCP that requires more than two clicks from the article itself in the SCP wiki to be revealed (and opening collapsed parts in said article count as clicks IMO) can be spoilered, but that's to the editorś discretion, so the "Unmarked Spoilers" warning is still a need. TV Tropes have a "Absolutely no spoilered content" on their "Moment" pages, on which Nightmare Fuel are grouped with, but I think that such an strigent policy is not fun, and unless the page become practically white with the spoiler markup that policy is very overkill.

Which is the basis of me asking this to begin with, beyond just plain not knowing what policy we have in place for this.

The closest we have to a policy page abut spoilers is Spoilers Off... which doesn't really help in this case.

I think Lequinni has the right approach here - mark the entire page as having Unmarked Spoilers, and spoiler-protect at the editor's discretion. If the page becomes overspoilered, then we can revisit it.

Agreed. That seems to be the best way to handle this.

Sounds like a consensus - I'm confident I can avoid overspoiling to begin with, but of course I trust the rest of you to inform me if I do and correct accordingly.

The next obstacle to tackle is Character/Nightmare Fuel subpage organization - there's so many recurring staff and about 7 different series of SCP as of December 12th, and as we flesh out said characters/examples, we'll probably have to start splitting them off...

As a recent-ish refugee from the old country, I'm used to Crowner/Moment subpages having an unmarked spoilers warning and policy, so that's my inclination.

Ah, if there is the need to split examples and create subpages, do so at your heart content, but I would wait until the examples on the current pages are up to date and the page goes too long for comfort before doing so.

Of course, there's no hurry - just saying I'd expect it to be necessary at some point, and we'll cross that bridge as it comes.

There's nothing wrong with planning ahead. :)