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* [[Author Appeal]]: George Perez designed a [http://sarcasm-hime.net/wanda-ref.jpg new costume] for the Scarlet Witch, which reveals that she does not wear panties. He has stated that she is [[Perverse Sexual Lust|his favorite character]].
* [[Author Appeal]]: George Perez designed a [http://sarcasm-hime.net/wanda-ref.jpg new costume] for the Scarlet Witch, which reveals that she does not wear panties. He has stated that she is [[Perverse Sexual Lust|his favorite character]].
* [[Author's Saving Throw]]: Hank Pym, whose involvement in the Civil War debacle was negated by the reveal that he was a Skrull during that storyline.
* [[Author's Saving Throw]]: Hank Pym, whose involvement in the Civil War debacle was negated by the reveal that he was a Skrull during that storyline.
** Earlier than that, ''Avengers Forever'' was meant as an Author's Saving Throw for the reviled "Crossing" arc, and along the way it simplified the Kang/Immortus connection so that future writers would not have to worry about it. [[Chuck Cunningham Syndrome|Not that future Avengers writers have made use of Immortus anyway]], and Kang was killed off by the next writer to use him.
** Earlier than that, ''Avengers Forever'' was meant as an Author's Saving Throw for the reviled "Crossing" arc, and along the way it simplified the Kang/Immortus connection so that future writers would not have to worry about it. [[Chuck Cunningham Syndrome|Not that future Avengers writers have made use of Immortus anyway]], and Kang was killed off by the next writer to use him.
*** Avengers: The Children's Crusade full-stop.
*** Avengers: The Children's Crusade full-stop.
* [[Broken Base]]: The fan base is pretty much irreversibly split on [[Brian Michael Bendis]]' contributions to the franchise, let alone the [[John Byrne]] Avengers West Coast run.
* [[Broken Base]]: The fan base is pretty much irreversibly split on [[Brian Michael Bendis]]' contributions to the franchise, let alone the [[John Byrne]] Avengers West Coast run.
* [[Creator's Pet]]: Jessica Jones and Luke Cage for Bendis, Mantis for Steve Englehart, Sersi for Bob Harras, Hank Pym for Dan Slott, and Sharon Carter for Ed Brubaker
* [[Creator's Pet]]: Jessica Jones and Luke Cage for Bendis, Mantis for Steve Englehart, Sersi for Bob Harras, Hank Pym for Dan Slott, and Sharon Carter for Ed Brubaker
* [[Downer Ending]]:
* [[Downer Ending]]:
** Vision Quest
** Vision Quest
** The Crossing
** The Crossing
** Avengers Disassembled
** Avengers Disassembled
** [[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]]
** [[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]]
** [[Secret Invasion]]
** [[Secret Invasion]]
** "Operation: Galactic Storm", about the Kree-Shi'ar War, ended with the Kree Supreme Intelligence detonating a Nega bomb and obliterating most of its own species in an attempt to jump start their evolution. Half of the Avengers were so disgusted with this that they executed him.
** "Operation: Galactic Storm", about the Kree-Shi'ar War, ended with the Kree Supreme Intelligence detonating a Nega bomb and obliterating most of its own species in an attempt to jump start their evolution. Half of the Avengers were so disgusted with this that they executed him.
*** It goes into an even bigger downer than that: Iron Man's participation in this sparked his descent into evil and the start of ''The Crossing'', the aforementioned [[Continuity Snarl]] of a crossover. Then it all feeds into Onslaught...
*** It goes into an even bigger downer than that: Iron Man's participation in this sparked his descent into evil and the start of ''The Crossing'', the aforementioned [[Continuity Snarl]] of a crossover. Then it all feeds into Onslaught...
* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: Everything since Chuck Austen took over the book in 2003.
* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]: Everything since Chuck Austen took over the book in 2003.
* [[God Mode Sue]]: Mantis under Steve Engelhart.
* [[God Mode Sue]]: Mantis under Steve Engelhart.
* [[Ho Yay]]: [[Iron Man]] and [[Captain America]]. [[Ho Yay/Comic Books|And for them it's]] ''[[Ho Yay/Comic Books|all]]'' [[Ho Yay/Comic Books|over the place]], starting in the classics and continuing to present day. Just look at ''Civil War: Confessions''.
* [[Ho Yay]]: [[Iron Man]] and [[Captain America (comics)]]. [[Ho Yay/Comic Books|And for them it's]] ''[[Ho Yay/Comic Books|all]]'' [[Ho Yay/Comic Books|over the place]], starting in the classics and continuing to present day. Just look at ''Civil War: Confessions''.
* [[Never Live It Down]]:
* [[Never Live It Down]]:
** For [[Iron Man]], both his alcoholism and [[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]].
** For [[Iron Man]], both his alcoholism and [[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]].
** For [[Ant-Man|Hank Pym]], [[Domestic Abuse|smacking Jan]] during a drug-addled [[Freak-Out]].
** For [[Ant-Man|Hank Pym]], [[Domestic Abuse|smacking Jan]] during a drug-addled [[Freak-Out]].
* [[One-Scene Wonder]]: Pilot Marko appears for about five pages in ''Secret Avengers'' #17, and you are about to read every word he's ever spoken, but he steals the book.
* [[One-Scene Wonder]]: Pilot Marko appears for about five pages in ''Secret Avengers'' #17, and you are about to read every word he's ever spoken, but he steals the book.
{{quote|'''Pilot Marko:''' [http://www.cosmiccomix.com/wp-content/uploads/SecretAvengers17_Marko.jpg Yes! Pilot Marko shoots stupid Yankee zillion-dollar plane right in its stupid bluddy face! Where is your bluddy Steve Jobs tricknology now, Rich Yankee Pigs with your tight pants?]
{{quote|'''Pilot Marko:''' [http://www.cosmiccomix.com/wp-content/uploads/SecretAvengers17_Marko.jpg Yes! Pilot Marko shoots stupid Yankee zillion-dollar plane right in its stupid bluddy face! Where is your bluddy Steve Jobs tricknology now, Rich Yankee Pigs with your tight pants?]
'''Valkyrie:''' ''(activates Extreme Separation Protocol)''
'''Valkyrie:''' ''(activates Extreme Separation Protocol)''
'''Pilot Marko:''' [http://www.cosmiccomix.com/wp-content/uploads/SecretAvengers17_Bum.jpg ... They throw bluddy airplane bum at Pilot Marko?]
'''Pilot Marko:''' [http://www.cosmiccomix.com/wp-content/uploads/SecretAvengers17_Bum.jpg ... They throw bluddy airplane bum at Pilot Marko?]
''(Pilot Marko go bye-bye)'' }}
''(Pilot Marko go bye-bye)'' }}
** ''[http://www.cosmiccomix.com/2011/09/30/ This...]'' '''This''' is what happens when you let [[Warren Ellis]] write the Avengers.
** ''[http://www.cosmiccomix.com/2011/09/30/ This...]'' '''This''' is what happens when you let [[Warren Ellis]] write the Avengers.
* [[Protection From Editors]]: [[Brian Michael Bendis]], whose tenure on the title has seen him being able to do as he pleases, which has not been received favorably by all.
* [[Protection From Editors]]: [[Brian Michael Bendis]], whose tenure on the title has seen him being able to do as he pleases, which has not been received favorably by all.
** This has changed though, if Avengers Vs X-Men, Siege, The Heroic Age relaunch of the classic adjectiveless Avengers book, and "Avengers: The Children's Crusade" are any indication.
** This has changed though, if Avengers Vs X-Men, Siege, The Heroic Age relaunch of the classic adjectiveless Avengers book, and "Avengers: The Children's Crusade" are any indication.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]] Basically every single line-up change in the fluid roster has gotten some criticism, but [[Brian Michael Bendis]]' reboot and [[Mark Millar]]'s [[Revision|revisioning]] stand out in terms of negative feedback.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]] Basically every single line-up change in the fluid roster has gotten some criticism, but [[Brian Michael Bendis]]' reboot and [[Mark Millar]]'s [[Revision|revisioning]] stand out in terms of negative feedback.
* [[The Woobie]]: The Hulk.
* [[The Woobie]]: The Hulk.



Revision as of 21:15, 4 October 2014


  • Author Appeal: George Perez designed a new costume for the Scarlet Witch, which reveals that she does not wear panties. He has stated that she is his favorite character.
  • Author's Saving Throw: Hank Pym, whose involvement in the Civil War debacle was negated by the reveal that he was a Skrull during that storyline.
    • Earlier than that, Avengers Forever was meant as an Author's Saving Throw for the reviled "Crossing" arc, and along the way it simplified the Kang/Immortus connection so that future writers would not have to worry about it. Not that future Avengers writers have made use of Immortus anyway, and Kang was killed off by the next writer to use him.
      • Avengers: The Children's Crusade full-stop.
  • Broken Base: The fan base is pretty much irreversibly split on Brian Michael Bendis' contributions to the franchise, let alone the John Byrne Avengers West Coast run.
  • Creator's Pet: Jessica Jones and Luke Cage for Bendis, Mantis for Steve Englehart, Sersi for Bob Harras, Hank Pym for Dan Slott, and Sharon Carter for Ed Brubaker
  • Downer Ending:
    • Vision Quest
    • The Crossing
    • Avengers Disassembled
    • Civil War
    • Secret Invasion
    • "Operation: Galactic Storm", about the Kree-Shi'ar War, ended with the Kree Supreme Intelligence detonating a Nega bomb and obliterating most of its own species in an attempt to jump start their evolution. Half of the Avengers were so disgusted with this that they executed him.
      • It goes into an even bigger downer than that: Iron Man's participation in this sparked his descent into evil and the start of The Crossing, the aforementioned Continuity Snarl of a crossover. Then it all feeds into Onslaught...
  • Fanon Discontinuity: Everything since Chuck Austen took over the book in 2003.
  • God Mode Sue: Mantis under Steve Engelhart.
  • Ho Yay: Iron Man and Captain America (comics). And for them it's all over the place, starting in the classics and continuing to present day. Just look at Civil War: Confessions.
  • Never Live It Down:
  • One-Scene Wonder: Pilot Marko appears for about five pages in Secret Avengers #17, and you are about to read every word he's ever spoken, but he steals the book.