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The Nine Old Men in question are:
The Nine Old Men in question are:


1. '''Les Clark''': Working with Disney from as early as [[Oswald the Lucky Rabbit]], and having worked on almost every pre-1960 Disney feature sans ''[[Bambi (Disney)|Bambi]]'' and ''[[Sleeping Beauty]]'', Les was one of Disney's true veteran animators. He animated up to ''[[Lady and The Tramp]]'', and after that he was promoted to directing and animating shorts and featurettes for the studio until his retirement in 1975. In fact, due to being with Disney from the very beginning, Walt originally chose him to write ''[[The Illusion of Life]]'', but he passed away during preliminary research.
1. '''Les Clark''': Working with Disney from as early as [[Oswald the Lucky Rabbit]], and having worked on almost every pre-1960 Disney feature sans ''[[Bambi]]'' and ''[[Sleeping Beauty]]'', Les was one of Disney's true veteran animators. He animated up to ''[[Lady and the Tramp]]'', and after that he was promoted to directing and animating shorts and featurettes for the studio until his retirement in 1975. In fact, due to being with Disney from the very beginning, Walt originally chose him to write ''[[The Illusion of Life]]'', but he passed away during preliminary research.


2. '''Marc Davis''': Got his start in 1935 as an animator on ''[[Snow White (Disney)|Snow White]]'', training under veteran [[Grim Natwick]], and would later do animation for characters like Bambi and Thumper, [[Peter Pan (Disney)|Tinkerbell]], [[Sleeping Beauty (Disney)|Maleficent and her raven]], and [[101 Dalmatians (Disney)|Cruella De Vil]]. He quit animation in 1961 to work on the [[Disney Theme Parks]], designing for such iconic rides as [[The Haunted Mansion]] and [[Pirates of the Caribbean]].
2. '''Marc Davis''': Got his start in 1935 as an animator on ''[[Snow White (Disney film)|Snow White]]'', training under veteran [[Grim Natwick]], and would later do animation for characters like Bambi and Thumper, [[Peter Pan (Disney film)|Tinkerbell]], [[Sleeping Beauty (Disney film)|Maleficent and her raven]], and [[101 Dalmatians|Cruella De Vil]]. He quit animation in 1961 to work on the [[Disney Theme Parks]], designing for such iconic rides as [[The Haunted Mansion]] and [[Pirates of the Caribbean]].


3. '''Ollie Johnston''': Got his start in 1935 working ''Snow White''. Noteworthy work of his includes [[Peter Pan (Disney)|Mr. Smee]], the Stepsisters in ''[[Cinderella (Disney)|Cinderella]]'', the District Attorney in ''[[The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad]]'', and Prince John in ''[[Robin Hood (Disney)|Robin Hood]]''. He and his longtime partner Frank Thomas authored the three books "The Illusion of Life: Disney Animation", "Too Funny For Words" and "The Disney Villain".
3. '''Ollie Johnston''': Got his start in 1935 working ''Snow White''. Noteworthy work of his includes [[Peter Pan (Disney film)|Mr. Smee]], the Stepsisters in ''[[Cinderella (Disney film)|Cinderella]]'', the District Attorney in ''[[The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad]]'', and Prince John in ''[[Robin Hood (Disney film)|Robin Hood]]''. He and his longtime partner Frank Thomas authored the three books "The Illusion of Life: Disney Animation", "Too Funny For Words" and "The Disney Villain".


4. '''Milt Kahl''': Started at Disney in 1934, and was easily Disney's most skilled animator, capable of animating the most notoriously hard characters, particularly the human males. Scenes animated by him tend to be [[Animation Bump|noticeably fluider and better drawn]]. Works of his includes [[The Jungle Book (Disney)|Shere Kahn]], [[Sleeping Beauty (Disney)|Prince Phillip]], [[The Aristocats|Edgar the Butler]], [[Robin Hood|The Sheriff of Nottingham]], and [[The Rescuers|Madame Medusa]]. He was also the only guy that could get away with cursing out [[Walt Disney]] himself, due to Walt understanding his ego equaled his talent.
4. '''Milt Kahl''': Started at Disney in 1934, and was easily Disney's most skilled animator, capable of animating the most notoriously hard characters, particularly the human males. Scenes animated by him tend to be [[Animation Bump|noticeably fluider and better drawn]]. Works of his includes [[The Jungle Book (Disney film)|Shere Kahn]], [[Sleeping Beauty (Disney film)|Prince Phillip]], [[The Aristocats|Edgar the Butler]], [[Robin Hood|The Sheriff of Nottingham]], and [[The Rescuers|Madame Medusa]]. He was also the only guy that could get away with cursing out [[Walt Disney]] himself, due to Walt understanding his ego equaled his talent.


5. '''Ward Kimball''': Joined Disney in 1934, and was easily Walt's most unique, "Cartoony" director, and Walt's personal favorite as a result. Noteworthy work of his includes Disney's most cartoony short, "[[Silly Symphonies|Toby Tortoise Returns]]", [[Pinocchio (Disney)|Jiminy Cricket]], the [[Disney Acid Sequence|Three Caballeros theme]] from [[The Three Caballeros|the movie of the same name]], Lucifer the cat and Jaq and Gus from ''[[Cinderella (Disney)|Cinderella]]'', the Mad Hatter and Chesire Cat in ''[[Alice in Wonderland (Disney)|Alice in Wonderland]]'', and the two [[UPA]]-influenced [[Adventures in Music Duology]]. Animation fans have often cited Ward as "the [[Tex Avery]] of Disney". Walt also praised him as a genius and the only person who was his equal.
5. '''Ward Kimball''': Joined Disney in 1934, and was easily Walt's most unique, "Cartoony" director, and Walt's personal favorite as a result. Noteworthy work of his includes Disney's most cartoony short, "[[Silly Symphonies|Toby Tortoise Returns]]", [[Pinocchio (Disney film)|Jiminy Cricket]], the [[Disney Acid Sequence|Three Caballeros theme]] from [[The Three Caballeros|the movie of the same name]], Lucifer the cat and Jaq and Gus from ''[[Cinderella (Disney film)|Cinderella]]'', the Mad Hatter and Chesire Cat in ''[[Alice in Wonderland (Disney film)|Alice in Wonderland]]'', and the two [[UPA]]-influenced [[Adventures in Music Duology]]. Animation fans have often cited Ward as "the [[Tex Avery]] of Disney". Walt also praised him as a genius and the only person who was his equal.


6. '''Eric Larson''': Joined Disney in 1933. Notable work of his includes the [[The Three Caballeros|Aracuan bird]], Peg from ''[[Lady and The Tramp]]'', the Vultures in ''[[The Jungle Book (Disney)|The Jungle Book]]'', [[Peter Pan]]'s flight over London, and Brer Rabbit, Brer Fox and Brer Bear in ''[[Song of the South]]''. He would later be given the job of training new Disney recruits in the 70's.
6. '''Eric Larson''': Joined Disney in 1933. Notable work of his includes the [[The Three Caballeros|Aracuan bird]], Peg from ''[[Lady and the Tramp]]'', the Vultures in ''[[The Jungle Book (Disney film)|The Jungle Book]]'', [[Peter Pan]]'s flight over London, and Brer Rabbit, Brer Fox and Brer Bear in ''[[Song of the South]]''. He would later be given the job of training new Disney recruits in the 70's.


7. '''John Lounsbery''': Started in 1935 and, working under Norm 'Fergy' Ferguson, quickly became a star animator. Lounsbery, affectionately known as 'Louns' by his fellow animators, was an incredibly strong draftsman who inspired many animators over the years. His animation was noted for its squashy, stretchy feel. Lounsbery animated Ben Ali Gator in ''[[Fantasia]]''; George Darling in Peter Pan; Tony, Joe, and some of the dogs in ''[[Lady and The Tramp]]''; The Kings in ''[[Sleeping Beauty (Disney)|Sleeping Beauty]]''; The Elephants in ''[[The Jungle Book (Disney)|The Jungle Book]]''; and many, many others. In the 1970s, Louns was promoted to Director and co-directed ''Winnie The Pooh And Tigger Too'' and his last film, ''[[The Rescuers]]''.
7. '''John Lounsbery''': Started in 1935 and, working under Norm 'Fergy' Ferguson, quickly became a star animator. Lounsbery, affectionately known as 'Louns' by his fellow animators, was an incredibly strong draftsman who inspired many animators over the years. His animation was noted for its squashy, stretchy feel. Lounsbery animated Ben Ali Gator in ''[[Fantasia]]''; George Darling in Peter Pan; Tony, Joe, and some of the dogs in ''[[Lady and the Tramp]]''; The Kings in ''[[Sleeping Beauty (Disney film)|Sleeping Beauty]]''; The Elephants in ''[[The Jungle Book (Disney film)|The Jungle Book]]''; and many, many others. In the 1970s, Louns was promoted to Director and co-directed ''Winnie The Pooh And Tigger Too'' and his last film, ''[[The Rescuers]]''.


8. '''Wolfgang Reitherman''': Joined Disney in 1935 as an animator and director. He directed all the Disney features after Walt's death up till his retirement. Some of his work includes Monstro in ''[[Pinocchio (Disney)|Pinocchio]]'', the Crocodile (in ''[[Peter Pan]]''), the Dragon (in ''[[Sleeping Beauty (Disney)|Sleeping Beauty]]''), and the Rat (in ''[[Lady and The Tramp]]'').
8. '''Wolfgang Reitherman''': Joined Disney in 1935 as an animator and director. He directed all the Disney features after Walt's death up till his retirement. Some of his work includes Monstro in ''[[Pinocchio (Disney film)|Pinocchio]]'', the Crocodile (in ''[[Peter Pan]]''), the Dragon (in ''[[Sleeping Beauty (Disney film)|Sleeping Beauty]]''), and the Rat (in ''[[Lady and the Tramp]]'').


9. '''Frank Thomas''': joined Disney in 1934. He went on to author ''[[The Illusion of Life]]'' with Ollie Johnston. His work included the wicked Stepmother (in ''[[Cinderella (Disney)|Cinderella]]''), the Queen of Hearts (in ''[[Alice in Wonderland (Disney)|Alice in Wonderland]]''), and Captain Hook (in ''[[Peter Pan (Disney)|Peter Pan]]'').
9. '''Frank Thomas''': joined Disney in 1934. He went on to author ''[[The Illusion of Life]]'' with Ollie Johnston. His work included the wicked Stepmother (in ''[[Cinderella (Disney film)|Cinderella]]''), the Queen of Hearts (in ''[[Alice in Wonderland (Disney film)|Alice in Wonderland]]''), and Captain Hook (in ''[[Peter Pan (Disney film)|Peter Pan]]'').


Movies featuring animation from all of the Nine Old Men include ''[[Cinderella (Disney)|Cinderella]]'', ''[[Alice in Wonderland (Disney)|Alice in Wonderland]]'', and ''[[Peter Pan (Disney)|Peter Pan]]''.
Movies featuring animation from all of the Nine Old Men include ''[[Cinderella (Disney film)|Cinderella]]'', ''[[Alice in Wonderland (Disney film)|Alice in Wonderland]]'', and ''[[Peter Pan (Disney film)|Peter Pan]]''.


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* [[Cloudcuckoolander]]: Ward Kimball. Just look at his line of work, or any kind of anecdote about him.
* [[Cloudcuckoolander]]: Ward Kimball. Just look at his line of work, or any kind of anecdote about him.
* [[Cool Old Guy|Cool Old Guys]]
* [[Cool Old Guy|Cool Old Guys]]
* [[Doing It for The Art]]: They played a big role in refining Disney animation in general, although some historians, such as Micheal Barrier, [http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Commentary/Williams_and_Canemaker/Williams_Canemaker.htm continue to debate] how much they really contributed to animation.
* [[Doing It for the Art]]: They played a big role in refining Disney animation in general, although some historians, such as Micheal Barrier, [http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Commentary/Williams_and_Canemaker/Williams_Canemaker.htm continue to debate] how much they really contributed to animation.
* [[Heterosexual Life Partners]]: Ollie and Frank
* [[Heterosexual Life Partners]]: Ollie and Frank
* [[Insufferable Genius]]: Milt Kahl's ego was only equaled by his talent.
* [[Insufferable Genius]]: Milt Kahl's ego was only equaled by his talent.

Revision as of 02:36, 8 April 2014

Back row: Milt Kahl, Marc Davis, Frank Thomas, Eric Larson, and Ollie Johnston. Front row: Woolie Reitherman, Les Clark, Ward Kimball, and John Lounsbery.


Some of the most revered animators in the History of Animation, Disney's Nine Old Men were a group of Walt Disney's top animators, some of whom would even become directors. They also taught and mentored many of today's top animators, both at Disney and elsewhere.

The Nine Old Men in question are:

1. Les Clark: Working with Disney from as early as Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, and having worked on almost every pre-1960 Disney feature sans Bambi and Sleeping Beauty, Les was one of Disney's true veteran animators. He animated up to Lady and the Tramp, and after that he was promoted to directing and animating shorts and featurettes for the studio until his retirement in 1975. In fact, due to being with Disney from the very beginning, Walt originally chose him to write The Illusion of Life, but he passed away during preliminary research.

2. Marc Davis: Got his start in 1935 as an animator on Snow White, training under veteran Grim Natwick, and would later do animation for characters like Bambi and Thumper, Tinkerbell, Maleficent and her raven, and Cruella De Vil. He quit animation in 1961 to work on the Disney Theme Parks, designing for such iconic rides as The Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean.

3. Ollie Johnston: Got his start in 1935 working Snow White. Noteworthy work of his includes Mr. Smee, the Stepsisters in Cinderella, the District Attorney in The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad, and Prince John in Robin Hood. He and his longtime partner Frank Thomas authored the three books "The Illusion of Life: Disney Animation", "Too Funny For Words" and "The Disney Villain".

4. Milt Kahl: Started at Disney in 1934, and was easily Disney's most skilled animator, capable of animating the most notoriously hard characters, particularly the human males. Scenes animated by him tend to be noticeably fluider and better drawn. Works of his includes Shere Kahn, Prince Phillip, Edgar the Butler, The Sheriff of Nottingham, and Madame Medusa. He was also the only guy that could get away with cursing out Walt Disney himself, due to Walt understanding his ego equaled his talent.

5. Ward Kimball: Joined Disney in 1934, and was easily Walt's most unique, "Cartoony" director, and Walt's personal favorite as a result. Noteworthy work of his includes Disney's most cartoony short, "Toby Tortoise Returns", Jiminy Cricket, the Three Caballeros theme from the movie of the same name, Lucifer the cat and Jaq and Gus from Cinderella, the Mad Hatter and Chesire Cat in Alice in Wonderland, and the two UPA-influenced Adventures in Music Duology. Animation fans have often cited Ward as "the Tex Avery of Disney". Walt also praised him as a genius and the only person who was his equal.

6. Eric Larson: Joined Disney in 1933. Notable work of his includes the Aracuan bird, Peg from Lady and the Tramp, the Vultures in The Jungle Book, Peter Pan's flight over London, and Brer Rabbit, Brer Fox and Brer Bear in Song of the South. He would later be given the job of training new Disney recruits in the 70's.

7. John Lounsbery: Started in 1935 and, working under Norm 'Fergy' Ferguson, quickly became a star animator. Lounsbery, affectionately known as 'Louns' by his fellow animators, was an incredibly strong draftsman who inspired many animators over the years. His animation was noted for its squashy, stretchy feel. Lounsbery animated Ben Ali Gator in Fantasia; George Darling in Peter Pan; Tony, Joe, and some of the dogs in Lady and the Tramp; The Kings in Sleeping Beauty; The Elephants in The Jungle Book; and many, many others. In the 1970s, Louns was promoted to Director and co-directed Winnie The Pooh And Tigger Too and his last film, The Rescuers.

8. Wolfgang Reitherman: Joined Disney in 1935 as an animator and director. He directed all the Disney features after Walt's death up till his retirement. Some of his work includes Monstro in Pinocchio, the Crocodile (in Peter Pan), the Dragon (in Sleeping Beauty), and the Rat (in Lady and the Tramp).

9. Frank Thomas: joined Disney in 1934. He went on to author The Illusion of Life with Ollie Johnston. His work included the wicked Stepmother (in Cinderella), the Queen of Hearts (in Alice in Wonderland), and Captain Hook (in Peter Pan).

Movies featuring animation from all of the Nine Old Men include Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, and Peter Pan.


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