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** And don't forget the {{spoiler|black Psyche-Locks}} that Phoenix encounters. We never did find out what that was all about until ''Dual Destinies'', but before that game released, the sight of them is both terrifying and indicative of just how blackhearted this man was.
** And don't forget the {{spoiler|black Psyche-Locks}} that Phoenix encounters. We never did find out what that was all about until ''Dual Destinies'', but before that game released, the sight of them is both terrifying and indicative of just how blackhearted this man was.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Valant Gramarye: Ok, [[Memetic Mutation|Zak was a jerk]]; almost definitely more of a jerk than Valant. But that doesn't excuse Valant for deciding to {{spoiler|frame him for murder}}, especially when the main motives were jealousy and money. Try telling that to Valant fans though.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Valant Gramarye: Ok, [[Memetic Mutation|Zak was a jerk]]; almost definitely more of a jerk than Valant. But that doesn't excuse Valant for deciding to {{spoiler|frame him for murder}}, especially when the main motives were jealousy and money. Try telling that to Valant fans though.
** {{spoiler|Kristoph Gavin}} is adored by some fans for his [[Bishonen|handsome looks]], but there isn't much beauty on the inside. It could be said that he's the male equivalent to Dahlia from the previous game. {{spoiler|the parallels go even deeper: both Dahlia and Kristoph make use of poison to goad certain people into offing themselves.}}
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: {{spoiler|The devilishly handsome Kristoph Gavin}}. He's a bastard alright, but at the same time he just looks so ''damn good'' in a suit.
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: {{spoiler|The devilishly handsome Kristoph Gavin}}. He's a bastard alright, but at the same time he just looks so ''damn good'' in a suit.
** The same goes for {{spoiler|Daryan Crescend}} once you get past the silly hairdo. He's every bit the handsome pretty-boy as {{spoiler|his bandmate Klavier.}}
** The same goes for {{spoiler|Daryan Crescend}} once you get past the silly hairdo. He's every bit the handsome pretty-boy as {{spoiler|his bandmate Klavier.}}

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Take general series tropes to Ace Attorney, and take tropes specific to the Phoenix arc, or Investigations to those pages, please.


  • Accidental Aesop: Don't use your daughter as a pawn in a criminal scheme. In addition to the character who did this in Phoenix Wright's trilogy, there are about four characters who do it in Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney. Phoenix Wright had his daughter give Apollo Justice evidence that Phoenix had forged so that Apollo would present it in court; Drew Misham had his daughter forge paintings and evidence for money; Magnifi Gramarye arguably did this when he blackmailed his students with something they had done to his daughter while apparently not doing much to help her; and Zak Gramarye had his daughter help him escape from his murder trial.
  • Broken Base: Apollo Justice has divided fans into a Phoenix Wright camp and an Apollo Justice camp. Some think the promised fifth game should bring Phoenix back as a lawyer, others believe that Apollo is a good character who just needs another game or two to develop.
  • Complete Monster: Kristoph Gavin. The game itself hints at the fact that he's much more than the series' average Smug Snake from the very beginning, and it's made perfectly clear when you have a clear look at his crimes at the end: Destroying Phoenix Wright's career because he got to defend the client Kristoph wanted, murdering that man over a seven year old failed poker game, nearly kidnapped a little girl and traumatized her to the point to where she was deathly afraid of going outside, and gave her and her father an incredibly lethal poison that would kill them horribly without them realizing it. Expect double portion of horror when in the last case, you use Apollo's ability to see the reactions of Kristoph's body to his own lies. Pay attention to what lies beyond his glasses, and then scroll down to the back of his hand. *Shudder* .
    • And don't forget the black Psyche-Locks that Phoenix encounters. We never did find out what that was all about until Dual Destinies, but before that game released, the sight of them is both terrifying and indicative of just how blackhearted this man was.
  • Draco in Leather Pants: Valant Gramarye: Ok, Zak was a jerk; almost definitely more of a jerk than Valant. But that doesn't excuse Valant for deciding to frame him for murder, especially when the main motives were jealousy and money. Try telling that to Valant fans though.
    • Kristoph Gavin is adored by some fans for his handsome looks, but there isn't much beauty on the inside. It could be said that he's the male equivalent to Dahlia from the previous game. the parallels go even deeper: both Dahlia and Kristoph make use of poison to goad certain people into offing themselves.
  • Evil Is Sexy: The devilishly handsome Kristoph Gavin. He's a bastard alright, but at the same time he just looks so damn good in a suit.
    • The same goes for Daryan Crescend once you get past the silly hairdo. He's every bit the handsome pretty-boy as his bandmate Klavier.
    • And then there's the incredibly beautiful gold-digging bitch Alita Tiala, who unsurprisingly has her fiancee Wocky head over heels in love with her.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: Some people just can't accept where Apollo Justice took Phoenix's character.
  • Foe Yay: Phoenix and Kristoph.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: The whole incident about Phoenix Wright getting hit by a car and flung into a pole and only suffered a sprained ankle. With his inclusion in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, he had to contend with a variety of attacks, such as She Hulk's Level 3 Hyper, which involves getting hit by a car (Sunday Driver, according to her), and her new attack in Ultimate swinging a pole. The best part is that the hit and run incident in the game took place on a Sunday.
  • Ho Yay: Has a page for it.
  • Idiot Plot: Many people think this about case 4-3, which has all the characters think it's perfectly feasible for a prepubescent boy to use an incredibly powerful revolver without injury, carry a 250lbs man across an arena, and even for the boy to be a secret Interpol agent. Even Apollo doesn't dispute the feasibility of the accusations, just that Machi was the one who did it. Shu Takumi has since admitted to the flaws in the case's storyline, and revealed that he was working on the assumption that Daryan was using his position in the police to manipulate the investigation and throw Machi under the bus for his own crimes, but forgot to make this clear in the dialogue.
    • Even worse was the fact that everyone assumed Machi was an Interpol agent based on the bloody writing. Given how many times something's been written in blood and turned out to be a false lead, you'd think everyone would pick up on that (especially since Apollo claimed that he's read over some of Phoenix's old case files, and Ema had the same kind of thing happen to her in the SL-9 case.)
  • Memetic Sex God: Klavier Gavin was the former page image.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Depending on your point of view, Kristoph crossed this either when he ruined Phoenix's life, or when he set up the chain of events that led to the near-death of Vera Misham, who he intended to have killed at the ripe age of twelve.
  • Nightmare Fuel:
    • It's standard for the guilty one to go completely batshit crazy in fury or amazement that their plan has been ruined. However, it gets even scarier with Kristoph, who slams his hand into the desk, his hair flies up as if he's going Super Saiyan, and after that's done, his hair is in a complete mess, his face looks just plain demented, and I'm pretty sure that his psycho-stare is scarier then even Damon Gant's! That. Is. Scary. And when you win the case, Kristoph snaps. With his hair still a complete mess, he puts a hand to his face, faces the sky, and just laughs. It's clear that he's gone completely insane when faced by the turn of events. He's lost everything by your victory; seven years of planning, gone. And you don't hear anything. You don't hear a sound byte of the laugh, there's no box saying "ha ha ha". No, what there is is a text-based "voice-over" describing the aftermath of the case, and how the killer... laughed, all while you watch his final breakdown in utter silence.
      • Actually, Kristoph's hair goes back to normal for his laughing sprite, bizarrely enough. The fact that he apparently fixed his hair just for that may or may not make it creepier.
    • Do NOT perceive Spark Brushel while he's smiling widely. He's not a bad guy for sure, but his grin looks far more deranged and sinister than it has any right to be.
  • Player Punch: Mixes with But Thou Must! in the flashback trial. Phoenix is blissfully unaware that he's about to present forged evidence, thinking he's riding the easy train to victory. Both the circumstances and the context of the rest of the game already make the player aware this will not end well but they are dragged kicking and screaming into presenting the evidence to move the plot forward. Really makes the player feel like they're responsible for Phoenix's disbarment.
  • Replacement Scrappy: Apollo, to some.
  • The Scrappy: Wocky Kitaki is considered to be among the most hated defendants, if not characters in the series thanks to his obnoxious "Gangsta" mannerisms and speech patterns, as well as his abrasive attitude. Some people wished that he truly was guilty so he could be tossed into prison for being such an obnoxious asshole.
    • Spark Brushel for some, mainly due to how damn hard it is to find his habit without consulting a guide. Though for some, his helpfulness towards Phoenix later on saves him from this status.
    • And last but not least, we have the infamous Zak Gramarye and his callous, dickish behavior that played a part in ruining Phoenix's life.
  • Ship Sinking: Before the game was released, many of the series' fans were shipping Apollo & Trucy. But considering the plot, that ship is unfortunately doomed, as they turn out to be siblings.
    • Although this hasn't discouraged some fans from shipping the two regardless. Ew.
  • Squick: A large portion of the second trial in the game is taken up by the "plot point" of someone stealing Trucy's panties.
  • The Woobie: Apollo is either this or a Chew Toy, depending on how funny you think his suffering is.
    • Vera. Dear god, Vera.
    • Trucy as well, especially if you take some lines from Phoenix at the end of the game into consideration.
    • Wocky is a Jerkass Woobie, undoubtedly the worst client Apollo gets. In fact he's worse than almost all of Phoenix's defendants because he doesn't come around by the end. But still, almost getting himself killed and all, lied to concerning this, then realising the truth about Alita...
    • And let's not forget about Klavier, shall we? It's easy to forget since he's a very laid-back, upbeat guy. But by the time this game has been over, he has unknowingly helped ruin Phoenix Wright's life over evidence that Phoenix didn't know was forged and was horrified to learn the truth as well as had to prosecute one of his closest friends and bandmates as well as his own brother Kristoph. It's especially sad when you finally see him and Kristoph in the same room, and it's clear that there's a rift between the two brothers with Klavier cowed by his brother's abrasive and toxic personality.