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* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]:
* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]:
** When you have the director of ''[[Death Note (Manga)|Death Note]]'', the writing duo behind ''[[Code Geass]]'', and two members of [[Supercell]] in charge of music and character designs on the same show, this reaction is to be expected.
** When you have the director of ''[[Death Note (Manga)|Death Note]]'', the writing duo behind ''[[Code Geass]]'', and two members of [[Supercell]] in charge of music and character designs on the same show, this reaction is to be expected.
** The [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-08-13/guilty-crown-gets-pc-game-spinoff-from-nitroplus news] of a PC game [[Spin Off]] [[Nitroplus|penned by the scenario writer behind]] [[Demonbane]] also caused some stir among fans.
** The [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-08-13/guilty-crown-gets-pc-game-spinoff-from-nitroplus news] of a PC game [[Spin-Off]] [[Nitroplus|penned by the scenario writer behind]] [[Demonbane]] also caused some stir among fans.
* [[Artistic License Biology]]: Vaccines don't have to be administered weekly. Biannually is just about the most extreme level within the realm of reality. Possibly justified by the Apocalypse Virus being very abnormal.
* [[Artistic License Biology]]: Vaccines don't have to be administered weekly. Biannually is just about the most extreme level within the realm of reality. Possibly justified by the Apocalypse Virus being very abnormal.
* [[Complete Monster]]:
* [[Complete Monster]]:
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** The entirety of Episode 15. First Yahiro decides to use a Void Ranking system based on the power readings on a random object they happened to find lying around, when it's been proven that all Voids can be useful given the situation. Then after Shu is confronted by Souta and says he doesn't agree with the system, a paper appearing to show the opposite ''just so happens'' to get leaked to the F-Ranked students. When they try to break into a local hospital out of desperation, Shu brings Hare along with him to stop them, even though he has no reason to believe any of them are injured yet and she has no means of defending herself whatsoever. ''Then'' when they're attacked Souta seems to lose a few brain cells and decides it's a good idea for him and Hare to run out into the open with Endlaves running about, resulting in {{spoiler|Hare's death and Shu's [[Start of Darkness]].}}
** The entirety of Episode 15. First Yahiro decides to use a Void Ranking system based on the power readings on a random object they happened to find lying around, when it's been proven that all Voids can be useful given the situation. Then after Shu is confronted by Souta and says he doesn't agree with the system, a paper appearing to show the opposite ''just so happens'' to get leaked to the F-Ranked students. When they try to break into a local hospital out of desperation, Shu brings Hare along with him to stop them, even though he has no reason to believe any of them are injured yet and she has no means of defending herself whatsoever. ''Then'' when they're attacked Souta seems to lose a few brain cells and decides it's a good idea for him and Hare to run out into the open with Endlaves running about, resulting in {{spoiler|Hare's death and Shu's [[Start of Darkness]].}}
** Actually, Shu specifically told Hare and the other students to take cover and hide while he drew the Anti-Bodies' fire. It probably would have worked too if Souta didn't {{spoiler|pull Hare out into the open and convince her to try and fix a car that was in plain view of the Endlaves.}}
** Actually, Shu specifically told Hare and the other students to take cover and hide while he drew the Anti-Bodies' fire. It probably would have worked too if Souta didn't {{spoiler|pull Hare out into the open and convince her to try and fix a car that was in plain view of the Endlaves.}}
* [[Hype Backlash]]: A result of being a part of the prestigious [[Noitamin A]] timeslot, having an allstar production crew, and [[Cliche Storm|not living up]] to its pedigree.
* [[Hype Backlash]]: A result of being a part of the prestigious [[Noitamin A]] timeslot, having an allstar production crew, and [[Cliché Storm|not living up]] to its pedigree.
* [[I Am Not Shazam]]: Fans are already prone to refer to the power of kings as the Guilty Crown despite this term not (yet) coming up in the actual show. For the time being, "Guilty Crown" seems to at most be a metaphorical way to refer to Shu's powers.
* [[I Am Not Shazam]]: Fans are already prone to refer to the power of kings as the Guilty Crown despite this term not (yet) coming up in the actual show. For the time being, "Guilty Crown" seems to at most be a metaphorical way to refer to Shu's powers.
* [[Karma Houdini]]: {{spoiler|Arisa}}
* [[Karma Houdini]]: {{spoiler|Arisa}}
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*** A variation of this is {{spoiler|HEIL MEIN SHUUHER!}}
*** A variation of this is {{spoiler|HEIL MEIN SHUUHER!}}
*** Another one is {{spoiler|How is the Shoelocaust going?}}
*** Another one is {{spoiler|How is the Shoelocaust going?}}
*** Similarly, it seems [[The Imageboard That Must Not Be Named]] has taken to photoshopping [http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1328924100484.jpg pictures] [http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1328921884010.jpg of] Nazi figures with the characters' heads. Whether this falls into [[Dude Not Funny]] or [[Crosses the Line Twice]] is...debatable.
*** Similarly, it seems [[The Imageboard That Must Not Be Named]] has taken to photoshopping [http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1328924100484.jpg pictures] [http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1328921884010.jpg of] Nazi figures with the characters' heads. Whether this falls into [[Dude, Not Funny]] or [[Crosses the Line Twice]] is...debatable.
** Party Gai: An image of Gai in a white suit leaning against a wall, photoshopped into pictures of other characters. Usually with Gai's arm over another character's shoulder.
** Party Gai: An image of Gai in a white suit leaning against a wall, photoshopped into pictures of other characters. Usually with Gai's arm over another character's shoulder.
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]:
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]:
** {{spoiler|Keido}} may have crossed it at one of two points - either when he {{spoiler|tried to prevent the Adam and Eve of the new world from being an incestuous couple by sacrificing hundreds of children in horrific experiments}}, or when he {{spoiler|murdered his old friend Kurosu in cold blood for no other reason than seething jealousy}}.
** {{spoiler|Keido}} may have crossed it at one of two points - either when he {{spoiler|tried to prevent the Adam and Eve of the new world from being an incestuous couple by sacrificing hundreds of children in horrific experiments}}, or when he {{spoiler|murdered his old friend Kurosu in cold blood for no other reason than seething jealousy}}.
** {{spoiler|Kurosu Ouma}} crossed it when {{spoiler|he agreed to go ahead with the pregnancy that would kill his wife, so that his daughter could trigger the apocalypse by sexing her new brother up}}. About the best that can be said is that [[My God What Have I Done|he wasn't too happy about it afterwards]].
** {{spoiler|Kurosu Ouma}} crossed it when {{spoiler|he agreed to go ahead with the pregnancy that would kill his wife, so that his daughter could trigger the apocalypse by sexing her new brother up}}. About the best that can be said is that [[My God, What Have I Done?|he wasn't too happy about it afterwards]].
* [[Narm]]: Episode 17.
* [[Narm]]: Episode 17.
{{quote| '''Shu''':{{spoiler|"My arm! MY KING'S POWER...!"}}}}
{{quote| '''Shu''':{{spoiler|"My arm! MY KING'S POWER...!"}}}}
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** In episode 21, when Shu and the Undertakers are moving out to attack GHQ, everybody is going in large armored trucks, a cool bike, and an Endlave. What does Shu drive? A glorified Segway.
** In episode 21, when Shu and the Undertakers are moving out to attack GHQ, everybody is going in large armored trucks, a cool bike, and an Endlave. What does Shu drive? A glorified Segway.
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]:
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]:
** The first two times Shu pulls out Souta's Void on-screen. While most people seem just slightly in pain (or sometimes [[Does This Remind You of Anything|pleasure]]) when having theirs removed, the first time Souta bends back unnaturally and his eyes roll up in his head, and the second time he sounds like he's screaming in agony, not to mention Shu runs at him and plunges his hand directly through Souta's chest, and the viewer gets to see Souta, easily one of the shortest and slightest members of the cast, get lifted off his feet and hang in the air off Shu's hand.
** The first two times Shu pulls out Souta's Void on-screen. While most people seem just slightly in pain (or sometimes [[Does This Remind You of Anything?|pleasure]]) when having theirs removed, the first time Souta bends back unnaturally and his eyes roll up in his head, and the second time he sounds like he's screaming in agony, not to mention Shu runs at him and plunges his hand directly through Souta's chest, and the viewer gets to see Souta, easily one of the shortest and slightest members of the cast, get lifted off his feet and hang in the air off Shu's hand.
** {{spoiler|Hare's death. ''Yikes.''}}
** {{spoiler|Hare's death. ''Yikes.''}}
** When {{spoiler|[[Came Back Wrong|Gai]] ''[[An Arm and A Leg|rips Shu's arm off]]'' and steals his void Genome.}} [[Body Horror|OUCH.]]
** When {{spoiler|[[Came Back Wrong|Gai]] ''[[An Arm and A Leg|rips Shu's arm off]]'' and steals his void Genome.}} [[Body Horror|OUCH.]]
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** Souta immediately dropped to this level when one of his boneheaded decisions {{spoiler|got Hare killed.}}
** Souta immediately dropped to this level when one of his boneheaded decisions {{spoiler|got Hare killed.}}
** Arisa and pretty much all of the students picked up a [[Hatedom]] after the events of Episode 17.
** Arisa and pretty much all of the students picked up a [[Hatedom]] after the events of Episode 17.
* [[Squick]]: {{spoiler|1=The [[Brother Sister Incest]]/[[Incest Subtext]] between Shu and Mana (and, since she's a clone, Inori)}}, and Keido trying to pull an [[Adam and Eve Plot]] on Mana through Inori.
* [[Squick]]: {{spoiler|1=The [[Brother-Sister Incest]]/[[Incest Subtext]] between Shu and Mana (and, since she's a clone, Inori)}}, and Keido trying to pull an [[Adam and Eve Plot]] on Mana through Inori.
* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: In Episode 4, we see that the GHQ really did bail Japan out of serious national crisis, and they are still actively trying to get rid of the Apocalypse Virus, though while doing a bit of military research on the side. They even have an entire medical facility to treat patients who still suffer from the virus, and the people they target are ones who have refused to inoculate themselves, meaning they still act as potential carriers. The GHQ also would not have had any reason to commit the atrocities seen in the first few episodes if their highly valuable and extremely dangerous experimental genetic weapon wasn't stolen by an armed terrorist group.
* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: In Episode 4, we see that the GHQ really did bail Japan out of serious national crisis, and they are still actively trying to get rid of the Apocalypse Virus, though while doing a bit of military research on the side. They even have an entire medical facility to treat patients who still suffer from the virus, and the people they target are ones who have refused to inoculate themselves, meaning they still act as potential carriers. The GHQ also would not have had any reason to commit the atrocities seen in the first few episodes if their highly valuable and extremely dangerous experimental genetic weapon wasn't stolen by an armed terrorist group.
** Of course, it all becomes moot when it is revealed that GHQ were the ones to trigger the Lost Christmas event in the first place.
** Of course, it all becomes moot when it is revealed that GHQ were the ones to trigger the Lost Christmas event in the first place.
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*** Not necessarily the leadership, even though Major General Yan is kind of an asshole, but it seems it's Souichiro Keido and the Anti-Bodies who are responsible for the events surrounding the series. See episode 11, where they were the only ones to suffer no effects from the Apocalypse Virus, and all other GHQ personnel were shown to be confused about the whole situation.
*** Not necessarily the leadership, even though Major General Yan is kind of an asshole, but it seems it's Souichiro Keido and the Anti-Bodies who are responsible for the events surrounding the series. See episode 11, where they were the only ones to suffer no effects from the Apocalypse Virus, and all other GHQ personnel were shown to be confused about the whole situation.
* [[Snark Bait]]
* [[Snark Bait]]
* [[So Bad Its Good]]
* [[So Bad It's Good]]
** Getting considerably better towards the 20 episode mark, according to general consensus.
** Getting considerably better towards the 20 episode mark, according to general consensus.
*** Only to fall right back down the crapper during the finale two-parter.
*** Only to fall right back down the crapper during the finale two-parter.
* [[They Copied It So It Sucks]]: The basic setup and much of the first episode did bear a striking resemblance to ''[[Code Geass]]'', which caused many fans to complain. Episode 2 somewhat quelled these complaints.
* [[They Copied It, So It Sucks]]: The basic setup and much of the first episode did bear a striking resemblance to ''[[Code Geass]]'', which caused many fans to complain. Episode 2 somewhat quelled these complaints.
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: In episode 14, to see what Tsugumi's void is Shu pulls it out of her while she is held back by everybody else. She is visibly upset by this, but everyone else is smiling and laughing. This scene is played for laughs. Now remember just how sexualized the act of Shu taking voids is? Yeah.
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: In episode 14, to see what Tsugumi's void is Shu pulls it out of her while she is held back by everybody else. She is visibly upset by this, but everyone else is smiling and laughing. This scene is played for laughs. Now remember just how sexualized the act of Shu taking voids is? Yeah.
** On that note, remember how in the first episode, Inori says, "Please, Shu, use me," as he draws out her void, turning the [[Does This Remind You of Anything|sexual undertones]] of that scene [[Up to Eleven]]? [[Call Back|In the final episode]], a similar scene occurs, only this time, Inori says, "Please, ''everyone'', use me." While doing the same suggestive motions, mind you. [[Sarcasm Mode|Um...score one for feminism]]?
** On that note, remember how in the first episode, Inori says, "Please, Shu, use me," as he draws out her void, turning the [[Does This Remind You of Anything?|sexual undertones]] of that scene [[Up to Eleven]]? [[Call Back|In the final episode]], a similar scene occurs, only this time, Inori says, "Please, ''everyone'', use me." While doing the same suggestive motions, mind you. [[Sarcasm Mode|Um...score one for feminism]]?
* [[What an Idiot]]: ''Everything'' Souta does. Period.
* [[What an Idiot!]]: ''Everything'' Souta does. Period.


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Revision as of 23:45, 8 January 2014



  • And the Fandom Rejoiced:
  • Artistic License Biology: Vaccines don't have to be administered weekly. Biannually is just about the most extreme level within the realm of reality. Possibly justified by the Apocalypse Virus being very abnormal.
  • Complete Monster:
    • The upper leadership of the GHQ Anti Bodies are a pretty vicious bunch, perfectly willing to throw away lives by the millions in order to further their own selfish goals.
    • The sadistic and utterly evil post-infection personality of Mana Ouma, which is different enough from both her pre-infection self and from its current host, Inori Yuzuriha, to be considered a completely separate entity.
  • Draco in Leather Pants:
    • Many fans seem to like Shu better as a Jerkass than what he was in the first half of the series.
    • If people dislike Jerkass Shu, they root for Gai. Even though he clearly Came Back Wrong, and even when he was still alive, he was almost as bad as Shu in full dictator-mode. That doesn't stop people from applauding him for taking away Shu's void Genome even though he's clearly on the wrong side.
  • Ear Worm: Episode 1's two insert songs "Euterpe" by EGOIST and "Bios" feat. Mika Kobayashi, and the series' OP1 and OP2 music "My Dearest" by supercell and "The Everlasting Guilty Crown" by EGOIST respectively.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: The show has a surprisingly large number of them, including Ayase, Tsugumi, Hare, Dan Eagleman, Segai, and Daryl. This might be due to the fact that many fans consider Shu and Inori to be very bland and boring characters.
  • Fan Nickname:
    • Shu:
      • "Shoe", or more rarely "Oh my shoe!" After Episode 15, People started calling him "Shuuher" and "Hitler" as well.
      • Shuuzaku and Shoelouch are also thrown about quite a bit.
      • Oumiya Shurou, after getting the third Void genome, which manifests as a replacement arm, and allows him to use any Void he used previously as his own, but with his body degrading more and more. Just like Shirou's situation in Heaven's Feel.
    • After her display of Endlave-slashing in Episode 18, Kerrigan the Queen of Blades for Inori.
    • Souta is sometimes referred to as "Soda".
    • Arisa has been called "The Whore of Babylon" due to her sleeping with one of Shuu's lackeys and leading the Coup d'etat against Shu.
    • "F-ranks" are often shortened to "Franks", partly due to Insane Troll Logic connecting them to Anne Frank.
    • Scythe-tan for the girl who wields a scythe.
    • Daath/Yuu is commonly called "Darth Mugi" due to his thick eyebrows.
      • He is also known as "Bushy Brows".
    • "Tsugumi's Rice Cooker" for Funell.
  • Fan Preferred Couple:
    • While the official pairing is quite obviously Shu and Inori, many fans actually consider Ayase or Hare as better romantic partners. Some also prefer to ship Shu and Mana.
    • Fans were also somewhat surprised at the hints of a Tsugumi and Daryl pairing, but quickly embraced it.
      • At the same time though, some fans are disgusted at how forced the Tsugumi/Daryl pairing is.
  • Foe Yay: Segai practically orgasms whenever he sees Shu pulling out Voids.
  • Freud Was Right: Since a Void is a representation of a personality, then BFS + Inori's Love = Extremely deredere Girl.
  • Ho Yay: Shu and Gai have a bit in episode 12.
  • Idiot Plot:
    • The entirety of Episode 15. First Yahiro decides to use a Void Ranking system based on the power readings on a random object they happened to find lying around, when it's been proven that all Voids can be useful given the situation. Then after Shu is confronted by Souta and says he doesn't agree with the system, a paper appearing to show the opposite just so happens to get leaked to the F-Ranked students. When they try to break into a local hospital out of desperation, Shu brings Hare along with him to stop them, even though he has no reason to believe any of them are injured yet and she has no means of defending herself whatsoever. Then when they're attacked Souta seems to lose a few brain cells and decides it's a good idea for him and Hare to run out into the open with Endlaves running about, resulting in Hare's death and Shu's Start of Darkness.
    • Actually, Shu specifically told Hare and the other students to take cover and hide while he drew the Anti-Bodies' fire. It probably would have worked too if Souta didn't pull Hare out into the open and convince her to try and fix a car that was in plain view of the Endlaves.
  • Hype Backlash: A result of being a part of the prestigious Noitamin A timeslot, having an allstar production crew, and not living up to its pedigree.
  • I Am Not Shazam: Fans are already prone to refer to the power of kings as the Guilty Crown despite this term not (yet) coming up in the actual show. For the time being, "Guilty Crown" seems to at most be a metaphorical way to refer to Shu's powers.
  • Karma Houdini: Arisa
  • Magnificent Bastard:
    • Gai.
    • Segai, who seems to be playing all sides against each other to test Shu's capabilities.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • "I can't wait to drop this show again next week!"
    • "Guilty Crown sucks! I can't wait for next week's episode!"
    • Ayase's disability and its implications have been subject to a number of memes.
      • "My hips can't move on their own..."
      • 17%. You know what it means.
      • Ayase won't stand for this kind of abuse.
    • HEIL SHU!
    • Party Gai: An image of Gai in a white suit leaning against a wall, photoshopped into pictures of other characters. Usually with Gai's arm over another character's shoulder.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • Keido may have crossed it at one of two points - either when he tried to prevent the Adam and Eve of the new world from being an incestuous couple by sacrificing hundreds of children in horrific experiments, or when he murdered his old friend Kurosu in cold blood for no other reason than seething jealousy.
    • Kurosu Ouma crossed it when he agreed to go ahead with the pregnancy that would kill his wife, so that his daughter could trigger the apocalypse by sexing her new brother up. About the best that can be said is that he wasn't too happy about it afterwards.
  • Narm: Episode 17.

 Shu:"My arm! MY KING'S POWER...!"

    • Episode 19

 Segai: Another person's heart is inside me!

    • In episode 21, when Shu and the Undertakers are moving out to attack GHQ, everybody is going in large armored trucks, a cool bike, and an Endlave. What does Shu drive? A glorified Segway.
  • Nightmare Fuel:
    • The first two times Shu pulls out Souta's Void on-screen. While most people seem just slightly in pain (or sometimes pleasure) when having theirs removed, the first time Souta bends back unnaturally and his eyes roll up in his head, and the second time he sounds like he's screaming in agony, not to mention Shu runs at him and plunges his hand directly through Souta's chest, and the viewer gets to see Souta, easily one of the shortest and slightest members of the cast, get lifted off his feet and hang in the air off Shu's hand.
    • Hare's death. Yikes.
    • When Gai rips Shu's arm off and steals his void Genome. OUCH.
  • The Scrappy:
    • Shu and Inori. Some people theorize that the number of Ensemble Darkhorses on this show is caused by the fact that people dislike them so much that they leach on everybody else.
    • Souta immediately dropped to this level when one of his boneheaded decisions got Hare killed.
    • Arisa and pretty much all of the students picked up a Hatedom after the events of Episode 17.
  • Squick: The Brother-Sister Incest/Incest Subtext between Shu and Mana (and, since she's a clone, Inori), and Keido trying to pull an Adam and Eve Plot on Mana through Inori.
  • Straw Man Has a Point: In Episode 4, we see that the GHQ really did bail Japan out of serious national crisis, and they are still actively trying to get rid of the Apocalypse Virus, though while doing a bit of military research on the side. They even have an entire medical facility to treat patients who still suffer from the virus, and the people they target are ones who have refused to inoculate themselves, meaning they still act as potential carriers. The GHQ also would not have had any reason to commit the atrocities seen in the first few episodes if their highly valuable and extremely dangerous experimental genetic weapon wasn't stolen by an armed terrorist group.
    • Of course, it all becomes moot when it is revealed that GHQ were the ones to trigger the Lost Christmas event in the first place.
      • It seems more because the GHQ leadership is corrupt and have their own ulterior motives. However, Dan is proof that at least some GHQ staff actually believe in GHQ's stated ideals.
      • Not necessarily the leadership, even though Major General Yan is kind of an asshole, but it seems it's Souichiro Keido and the Anti-Bodies who are responsible for the events surrounding the series. See episode 11, where they were the only ones to suffer no effects from the Apocalypse Virus, and all other GHQ personnel were shown to be confused about the whole situation.
  • Snark Bait
  • So Bad It's Good
    • Getting considerably better towards the 20 episode mark, according to general consensus.
      • Only to fall right back down the crapper during the finale two-parter.
  • They Copied It, So It Sucks: The basic setup and much of the first episode did bear a striking resemblance to Code Geass, which caused many fans to complain. Episode 2 somewhat quelled these complaints.
  • Unfortunate Implications: In episode 14, to see what Tsugumi's void is Shu pulls it out of her while she is held back by everybody else. She is visibly upset by this, but everyone else is smiling and laughing. This scene is played for laughs. Now remember just how sexualized the act of Shu taking voids is? Yeah.
  • What an Idiot!: Everything Souta does. Period.