The Empire Strikes Back/Trivia

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  • Author Existence Failure:
    • George Lucas hated the process of scripting the first film, so he hired noted pulp SF novel author and Golden Age Hollywood screenwriter Leigh Brackett to write the script for Empire. She wrote one draft, but died of cancer soon afterwards. As a result, Lucas wrote the next few drafts himself, before asking Lawrence Kasdan to do revisions. Incidentally, the famous Luke, I Am Your Father reveal wasn't in Brackett's draft; Lucas only added it when he started rewriting the script himself. Although most of her version was rewritten two contributions by Brackett did end up making it into to the final film: the planet names 'Hoth' and 'Bespin'.
    • Yoda almost suffered this in the prequels because George Lucas originally asked Jim Henson to play him.
  • Beam Me Up, Scotty: Vader says "No, I am your father", not "Luke, I am your father."
  • Creator Backlash: George Lucas called Empire "the worst Star Wars film". Yes, really. Though, then again, problems with filming and it's original reception need to be remembered, since at the time of its release the film was considered worse than the original by critics and many moviegoers.
  • Enforced Method Acting: When shooting the big scene between Luke and Vader, David Prowse said "No, Obi-Wan killed your father", and that's what the entire crew of the film thought would be said when James Earl Jones dubbed in his lines. Only 5 people (Lucas, Jones, Mark Hamill so he would react correctly, writer Lawrence Kasdan and director Irvin Kershner) knew the actual line.
    • And Hamill didn't know until they were on set and ready to film. Kershner took him aside and told him moments before. They were very determined to keep the big reveal a secret.
  • Hey, It's That Guy!
  • Hey, It's That Voice!: Miss Piggy as Yoda!
  • Lying Creator: To make absolutely sure the big twist wouldn't leak, only Lucas, Irvin Kershner, James Earl Jones, and Mark Hamill knew about the real line, with the script featuring Vader saying "Obi-Wan killed your father." The rest of the cast and crew only learned the truth at the movie's premiere, and David Prowse was quite upset with Lucas afterwards, saying his physical acting would have been completely different if he'd known the real line.
  • The Other Darrin/Recut: The original Emperor hologram was a woman with superimposed chimpanzee eyes and the voice of Clive Revill. The DVD changed him to Ian McDiarmid, who played the Emperor in the other films (and was one of the few changes no one complained about!).
    • No one complained about the actor change, but quite a few people complained about the changes that added unnecessary clunky exposition which implied Vader had no idea that this kid named Skywalker from Tattooine who'd been paling around with Obi-Wan Kenobi was any relation to Anakin (which tracks with the Emperor's lies during Revenge of the Sith and the deliberate pretense that Padme had died pregnant, but makes Vader's specific fixation on catching Skywalker earlier in Empire seem odd).
  • Real Life Writes the Plot:
    • Han was frozen in carbonite because Harrison Ford wasn't sure he wanted to appear in the next film, and so the character was Put on a Bus. Needless to say, The Bus Came Back.
    • Luke got bashed around by the wampa because Mark Hamill got in a car accident during the final part of filming the previous film (they even had to get an extra to play him in a landspeeder distance shot). Some of his scars in that scene are real because they hadn't had time to heal yet.
  • Throw It In: When they just couldn't get Han's response to Leia in their last scene right, Irvin finally just told Harrison to do anything, and he just blurted out "I know." The original line was "I love you too." Ford argued that Han Solo would never say such a thing directly, much less repeat someone. Lucas and Kershner agreed.
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  • Troubled Production:
    • It went over budget and behind schedule, and the Hoth location shoot in Norway was plagued by a strong snowstorm and overcharges by the locals (who knew they had to cash in, given the success of the predecessor; Lucas shot Return of the Jedi under a fake name to avert this price gouging).
    • The Yoda puppet was made of a less than optimal material, resulting in it being quite a bit heavier than what Frank Oz was used to from his time with the Muppets. The strain put on his arms meant the scenes had to be shot on a quite erratic schedule.
  • What Could Have Been:
    • In Leigh Brackett's initial script draft, Vader is explicitly not Luke's father; Anakin appears to Luke on Dagobah as a Force Ghost, alongside Obi-Wan. As well, it's revealed that Luke has a twin sister: not Leia, but someone else called Nellith. She's mentioned but never seen, in what was intended as a Sequel Hook for later episodes (note the plural). This was probably what Lucas had in mind when he inserted the "there is another" line. Then Brackett died, and the filming on The Empire Strikes Back was so chaotic that he decided to wrap up the saga with only one more film, which led him to make the "other" into somebody we already knew and turn Vader into Anakin (while also developing Backstory that would later inspire the prequels).
    • An earlier draft had Luke's reason for not leaving with Lando and Chewie at the end being that his Jedi training was more important. Believing that this would make Luke seem less sympathetic, Irvin Kershner had it changed to where Luke was still recovering from his injuries and that rescuing Han would be his first priority once he was fully recovered.
    • Lucas originally approached Jim Henson to play Yoda (the film was being made directly across the street from the headquarters for The Muppet Show). As he was throughout most of his life, Henson was extraordinarily busy and couldn't take the job, but he suggested his long time partner Frank Oz, and the rest is history.
    • David Lynch was offered the director's chair at one point.
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