Topic on Talk:Her Child, but Not His

Summary by Robkelk

Motion to replace the current racist image was defeated.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

As discussed in the "vs Chocolate Baby" thread, the image is inherently racist and should be changed. We had an image picking thread on the forums, but the forums are inaccessible because of a security issue. Thus, here;s a replacement image picking thread.

It's taken this long to find a possible replacement: https://omaketheater.com/comic/326/

However, said possible replacement requires some knowledge of how colours mix in pigments. Is this a decent substitution?

@Goo Monster @Labster @Looney Toons @GethN7 @Robkelk @QuestionableSanity @Derivative @SelfCloak

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I like that, and it's fairly intuitive to figure out.

Umbire the Phantom (talkcontribs)
Agiletek (talkcontribs)

How is the current image racist? The baby of infidelity is (half-)black because that makes the infidelity obvious, nothing else.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

There's the strong implication that only black men do this, which is factually incorrect.

Umbire the Phantom (talkcontribs)

Yeah, it was even discussed some years prior in the previous thread on this talk page - at best it's rife with Unfortunate Implications, which are easily avoidable regardless of whether or not I would be personally offended by it.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

I'm okay with the new image.

Agiletek (talkcontribs)

I don't like the alternate suggestion. Too long, and too dependent on the facial expression (easily lost at thumbnail size).

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

The image is only 360 pixels wide - why would we thumbnail it? EDIT: And a long image would fill up some of that whitespace beside the table of contents.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Recapping so far: GethN7, Looney Tunes, and I are in favour of replacing the image with my suggestion; Agiltek doesn't like the new image, Umbrie hasn't cast a vote.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)
Ilikecomputers (talkcontribs)

I'm not the biggest fan of the new image, but I'm even less of a fan of the original one. Voting yes.

HeneryVII (talkcontribs)

I like the new imager better. Voting yes.

Utini501 (talkcontribs)

I don't see anything racist about the initial image either, and honestly the takeaway that "the baby is half black (or literally chocolate in this case) ergo ALL black men are lustful homewreckers" is a huge reach. It's a silly milk-based visual gag and I'm really not thrilled with the prospect of replacing the image because some people might read something offensive into it. So yeah, I'm voting to keep it.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Please don't put words in my mouth.

What I said was "There's the strong implication that only black men do this, which is factually incorrect."

I don't know how you started from there and got to "all black men".

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

@Utini501, does your vote stand based on the clarification given here?

HLIAA14YOG (talkcontribs)
I think we're jumping five steps straight in "racism moral panic" territory by replacing an image simply because a black character is portrayed as a homewrecker.
Robkelk (talkcontribs)
HLIAA14YOG (talkcontribs)

The answer is no.

GentlemensDame883 (talkcontribs)

No, I don't feel the need for a change.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Motion has been defeated.

And I was so hoping to get rid of that racist image, too.