Topic on Talk:The Millennium Age of Animation

This is going to be a pretty ambitious project for a page image. Here we go.

The Renaissance Age of Animation has File:Renaissance 6935 6462.jpg, sampling some influential animation from the era. Why not do the same here? We'll copy the format exactly: six panels, filled with work from different animated works.

It is important that all countries and studios are represented. The image over at the Renaissance page has quite a lot of American animation. Here, let's try to get other countries going as well.

I propose we take images from the following works:

• The Incredibles (first Pixar film to have human characters)
• Spirited Away (need I say any more? In case you don't know, Wikipedia best sums it up: "The first Miyazaki feature to be shot using a 100% digital process; the first film to gross $200 million worldwide before opening in North America; the film to finally overtake Titanic at the Japanese box office, becoming the top-grossing film in the history of Japanese cinema; the only anime and traditionally animated winner, so far, of an Academy award for Best Animated Feature"). See proposed image here
• The Owl House (LGBTQ+ representation)
• Wolfwalkers (samples Irish animation)
• When Marnie Was There (film) (Ghibli's last film before restructuring). See proposed image here.
• The first Shrek (many a source of Memetic Mutation)

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I understand Spirited Away but if we're going to do this, but I would like some representation of Japanese television animation. I would suggest Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood since it was released right between the 2000s and 2010s and it is a very acclaimed adaptation. If it needs to be original then Madoka Magica. I like Marnie Was There but I'm not sure is what I would put on the page image.

I stuck to works I'm familiar with, stuff that I won't completely butcher because I took a bad screenshot unrepresentative of the work, but I am fully supportive of using Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. Can you please find me a good image to use, along with the licensing information?

The very page who we use for the manga is actually a promotional image of the anime. It is a problem here, our manga pages constantly conflate with the adaptation, something we inherited from TVT.

I prefer a screenshot from the work rather than a promotional image. I'm quite fond of this one (page the image lives at) from IMDb's absolutely insane list of 2,500 images for the work. As a bonus, its higher quality and larger file size gives me more options while creating the final image.

I am curious if we can add something from stop motion animation like from Coraline for the image?

In that case, which work do you want to get rid of? I'm thinking The Incredibles, because American 3D movies is already covered by Shrek.

This would make our list:

• Coraline
• Spirited Away
• The Owl House
• Wolfwalkers
• Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
• Shrek

• Coraline
• Spirited Away
• The Owl House
• Wolfwalkers
• Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
• Shrek

seems reasonable to me, but I'm not all that informed on this to be blunt.

"The Owl House (LGBTQ+ representation)"

And? Literally two animation genres, one of which is very popular in its own right with multiple works in it that wound up being mainstream successes, beat it to any claim of this by well over a decade decade.

I think The Last Airbender is far more deserving of any placement. It shares a name with one of the highest grossing movies of all time (which, frankly, qualifies as an "Animated" movie for 90% of the film), but "everyone thinks of Aang" when they hear the name because it's that influential (and Cameron's thing so totally forgettable past the spectacle, but that's beside the point).

Ah, that's why I put the topic up for discussion!

I knew that, because I'm very much the embodiment of Small Reference Pools, there will be so many notable shows that escaped my radar, because I haven't seen it. The initial list I proposed are stuff I have seen which I really like. Clearly, that is biasing my decisions.

Do you think this image (page) is a good representation of the series as a whole?

Oh the other hand, are you sure you want The Last Airbender to end up here? I won't touch that thing with a 35 mile pole.

Do you mean: Avatar: The Last Airbender?

New list:

• Coraline
• Spirited Away
• Avatar: The Last Airbender
• Wolfwalkers
• Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
• Shrek

Yes, Avatar: The Last Airbender.

The very mention of "The Owl House" means it's an instant NO. Way too controversial of a topic.

Not controversial here. Vote yes.

My understanding is Owl House did mediocre in ratings overall, it just has a very loud adult fanbase. It's also currently ongoing, which brings me back to (blue) Avatar: Even if something is successful now, is it really illustrative of an era of culture if one can't say for sure it will even be remembered a year after its concluded? TLA is still well remembered and continues to influence.

Exactly, hence why I switched.

Last chance to comment before I make the image!

Also, when I upload the image compilation, would the license be "I created the work myself" or "fair dealing"? While it is true I made the image, the images I select are almost all fair dealing. Personally I'll say the image as a whole is "I created the image", while each individual image used will have their respective licenses noted and written down.

A composite image, like File:Great walls.jpg, is a derivative work, and is copyright by the person who created it. You would choose the "This file was uploaded by the photographer or author." option under licensing, along with whatever license you want to grant ATT. (Unless you choose to place it in the public domain.) You might want to consult what I did when I uploaded that image as a model for what you do. You don't have to give the rights to ATT as I did with Great walls.jpg -- you can dictate your preferred terms.

I don't know whether that's accurate - my works don't suddenly fall into the public domain just because somebody sampled them in their works. This might be an oddity of US law that doesn't apply in the UK.

I'll use that image as an example. I cannot stress enough thank you very much!

I am fine with the Owl House and that list for looks good except that Avatar the Last Airbender should be Avatar (film).

No, they're talking about Avatar: The Last Airbender, not the James Cameron film.